Diesel Secret a.k.a. DSE is a company that sells an additive based solution that is an alternative to petro-diesel or biodiesel.

There's much that's been written, talked about, documented, and otherwise said about this vendor.

I recommend you read through a couple of these threads on it & make your own decision as to whether to proceed or not.

Read this one first:
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/419605551/m/9741005301

Here's more I found here at infopop on it:
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/419605551/m/4511077101
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/419605551/m/5751098401
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/419605551/m/3371094601
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/719605551/m/2441086201
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/7481055401
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/449605551/m/1261090301
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/497102010111
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/1671071601
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/359605551/m/8931091001
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/419605551/m/9741005301

And even more on it over at biodieselnow.com
http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7826
http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8376
http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7712
http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7979
http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7815

The key word is Caveat Emptor...or BUYER BEWARE!!!

-Graydon

Picture Time!

I received a sample of DSE Fuel from someone stopping by. Here's what the sample looks like after sitting in my garage for a few months in the cold.






See the stuff gelling in the bottom?
-Graydon

Does the gell go away when you put it back into warmer temperatures? If not, they may have a tiny problem on their hands......

SOTD

I'll bring it inside the house & let it sit for a few hours & see what it does, take some more pics of it & report back...

-Graydon

More Pictures!

So I brought the smelly stuff inside & heated it (very carefully, there's gas in there ya know) w/ a 1000 W Heat Gun (on the 600 W setting).

Guess what? All that gelling in the bottom disappeared! Imagine that! DSE Having a Gelling Problem!





And if you want, click on this link & you can see one of the pics before I resized it. In the bottom there was a teeny, tiny wisp of gelling still....after it's sat now (heated) for about 5 minutes it's gone away.

Links to the BIG images
http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/infopop/DSE_AFTHEATFULL01.JPG
http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/infopop/DSE_AFTHEATFULL02.JPG
http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/infopop/DSE_AFTHEATFULL03.JPG

Whew! Man, you can really smell it when it's heated a bit!
It smells like Turpentine! That's it!
-Graydon

I can see that your link to DSE on your website is an affiliate link.

Not to be onry, but how much are they paying you to sell their product?

(your banner ad at the top of your site)
This one....
http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm?B=54731&U=168566&M=9944

Which redirects to here:
http://www.dieselsecret.com/

Also, I AM one of the 'Biodiesel People'.

-Graydon
Still not a fan of DSE.
Still thinks it's an overpriced way to sell Benzene & Xylene.
Still thinks it's a joke.

Hello DSE Tester

I visited your website and notice the DSE banners scrolling over the top of the page claiming all the wonderous advantages when using DSE. When you click on the banner it takes you to the DSE site.

Then just below you have pictures of big He-Manly trucks "Burning Rubber" as if they were "Supercharged Super trucks using Supercharged secret fuel".

Why do I find your claim "This site is not related to the DSE (Diesel Secret Energy LLC) Company" to be BULL$HIT

I strongly suggest your SPAM posting to our site be removed immediatly.

Thanks Tilly, you put my feelings on the issue much more pointedly....

-Graydon
Here Here!

I posted the banner so people could buy the product if they wanted to.... If you would like to see it gone, I will remove it. WE ARE NOT PART of the company,,,, You guys want DSE guys off your site, send them over, so they can ask the guys using it, NOT YOU.... I have not even tryed the product yet, but have a friend mixing up a batch for his 95 Powerstroke this weekend.

Hello DSE Tester

If you remove the banner and all hyperlinks to the DSE website from your website and then remove all the pictures of big He-manly diesel trucks and replace them with the picture of a single broken down car sitting on the side of the road in 3 feet of snow with the bonnet up and a woman and her children laying next to the car frozen to death I might believe you.

Why would anyone here want to go to your disinformation site?
If they want to run SVO we have a perfectly good SVO site right here and no crapola secret Bull$hit ingredients.

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eplace them with the picture of a single broken down car sitting on the side of the road in 3 feet of snow with the bonnet up and a woman and her children laying next to the car frozen to death I might believe you.

Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off...

Oh why did I find that so funny...

I dont even know what diesel secret is...

DSE is known as Diesel Scam Enterprise(DSE LLC)

This company must be making millions of dollars from cheating.

They don't sell their products but scheming to squeeze millions of innocent asians out of their monies. We paid them but we do not
received their products. Please be bewares of their scams.


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its a secret...

I for one would like to thank DSE ! If it was not for them taking my money and myself makeing a couple batch and saying " Self There Must Be A Beter Way?" I would have never found this site and all you wonderful people!! (and about 200 gal. of BD under my Belt)

By the way.. Thanks everyone !!!!

quote:

Originally posted by Batch:
I for one would like to thank DSE ! If it was not for them taking my money and myself makeing a couple batch and saying " Self There Must Be A Beter Way?" I would have never found this site and all you wonderful people!! (and about 200 gal. of BD under my Belt)

By the way.. Thanks everyone !!!!

I got a kick out of their excuse for not answering their phone:

"Unfortunately, we are not staffed to field hundreds of phone calls daily. Instead, consider contacting us via e-mail with questions (including shipping problems) that are NOT already answered on our site. Thank you for your interest."

http://www.dieselsecret.com/contact.html

-Graydon

More on their "affiliate" program here....
http://www.dieselsecret.com/affiliates.html

Hmm...let's see. 10% of 50 is $5.00.
So for every sucker you lead to their door that pay's them $50.00 you get a $5.00 kickback...

And as PT Barnum's line goes...
"There is a sucker born every minute...."

Interesting....
-Graydon

DAMN!!!
I just looked at what they charged you for shipping for that lame bottle of Xylene & Benzene. I'm pretty sure it didn't cost em that much to send it to you (seeing as the morons don't even label their packages right).
1- It's against the law to mail anything via USPS that's remotely flammable
2- If you mail w/ other carrier's you're supposed to label it.

The package Jack Jones bought (for research purposes of course) last year was in an unlabelled box.

--sorry, I'm on an anti-DSE kick this week. Been hearing about too many folks getting suckered into it & getting burned.

-Graydon

Holy big bang, Batman!

MSDS Benzene
http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/BE/benzene.html

MSDS Xylene
http://hazard.com/msds/mf/cards/file/0086.html

Both are highly flamable and the Xylene potentially forms explosive gases at 27C (80.6F), not that high.
And they are sending this stuff through the mail ?
Someone needs to notify the USPS and FBI about these guys before they cause grievous bodily harm to innocents, providing there is irrefutable proof that this is indeed what they are doing. ALL HazMats (which this stuff is)must be labelled on the outside of the packaging regardless of amounts.Container labelling (placards) are only for amounts in excess of established minimums, but smaller amounts must be accompanied by packaging labels, it's international law for the transportation of HazMats (Dangerous Goods).
In their case, "getting burned" takes on a double entendre eh?

Hello All, Yes I'm one of those that has been useing DSE since just before Christmas of 05.It seems to run just fine.The biggest problems I have had was with the filtration system that I built.I since corrected the problem. It very important to use the water seperator that is suggested.I found that without it I did have a little geling(nothing major). I admit I'm one that was looking for an easier way out and thus far it paying off. I will be doing some inspection of interals soon(with a scope,... remove injecters etc,...)I'll keep you posted
Thank you