I have been running a 5 to 1 mix of new soy oil and RUG in my 300SD. I will try up to an 8 to 1 mix during the warm months. It gets down to 30 F here at night now, and it starts after 2 glow cycles in the morning. I have not tried Kero, or any other solvent, as the "Vegoline" seems to work great!. It gets the same 24 MPG like it did on Dino, so that is good. I am also using a Lovecraft heated filter (permanent washable filter)without the heat (I will hook up the coolant lines if needed), and a booster pump. I am very happy with this setup, and look forward to many miles with this blend.

Is this process still considered to be bio-fuel? Or just solvent thinning?

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Originally posted by AltJPC30:
Is this process still considered to be bio-fuel? Or just solvent thinning?

Solvent thinned Bio-fuel is what this is. RUG is Regular Unleaded Gasoline.

Many of us hate the name "solvent thinning" for this forum. Never was used anywhere that I know of. The vote was for BLENDING or BLENDED VEG OIL FUELS and simular as the forum's title but the powers to be choose "solvent thinning".

The whole "bio-diesel" term confuses many people. It's a pretty broad swipe really.

People that I talk to, think that bio-diesel is strictly derived from crops such as canola and such, and pressed into a
"green", or "bio" fuel. I'm sure that this IS one of the options.

Most people have no concept of bio-diesel having the methanol, lye, and whatever else steps involved.

The first time that I have heard "solvent thinning" threw me for a loop.

I'm glad that there are forums like this one available.

summer blend...80/20 WVO/RUG in older Mercedes no heat and no mods.

Winter blend....50/30/20 WVO/diesel/RUG in any older IDI diesel engine with no mods, no heat, single tank.

Summer "other" than Mercedes.... varies between 80/20 and the 50/30/20 methods

In all cases, nominal amounts of biocide, Startron tank cleaner, Power Services products, Naptha or other spirits.....meaning much less than 1% of the blend.

odie, are you blending in your 6.2? If so what ratio? Any problems with it. I am about to start driving my 6.2 converted Toyota and will soon start running a WVO blend. I am in Texarkana, Texas, I notice you are in Texas as well, where? I have injector heaters and a heated Vormax filter so maybe I can run a little more WVO in my blends? Do you think the Vormax is enough or should I add a second filter?
Rusty

Hi!

Please forgive my ignorance but what is RUG?

I live in Chicago and do a blend into my single tank on my 79' MB 240D. I am pretty interested in the numbers you guys are posting as far as lowering your temps.

What is it and how do I get it.

Thanks!
Ed
dervolksfuhrer@hotmail.com

Regular Unleaded Gasoline -- I read on and answered my own question.

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!

I have NEVER heard of this till today and am tickled pink!

So what precautions do i need to take if any? Just filtered oil and gas from the pump huh?

I live in Chicago and it gets darn cold here in the winter. What can I safely do in my 79' 240D?

Can I use ethanol instead of RUG?

WOW! I'm excited!!!

In the summer I was using 50/50 veg-diesel with no modifications and thought that was pushing it. Sounds like I can do a whole lot more without any problems.

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Originally posted by Dervolksfuhrer:
...So what precautions do i need to take if any? Just filtered oil and gas from the pump huh?

I live in Chicago and it gets darn cold here in the winter. What can I safely do in my 79' 240D?

Can I use ethanol instead of RUG?

WOW! I'm excited!!!

In the summer I was using 50/50 veg-diesel with no modifications and thought that was pushing it. Sounds like I can do a whole lot more without any problems.

Find your old glovebox manual. Bet in reading it you will find it says you can add up to 20% RUG as a winter antigel.

Some Precautions:
. No matter the blending agent, make sure oil is dewatered AND filtered. Dewatering being most important in the long run.

. Blend BEFORE putting it in the tank.

. Do NOT blend with a device that can spark (electric drill)

This is not an exact science yet. We can only say "exact" that 10% veg oil 90% diesel is safe. Everything else is experamental and much of it is successful experements but not EXACT or claimable to be "safe" cause conditions vary to much.

ohhhhh with that in mind. Make sure you glow plugs are in tip top shape and better yet.... switch to the longer burn Glow Plug arrangement. (stay hot for a little while after ignition). You might consider Injector Line heaters too in weather like Chicago. Extra protection- plug in your block heater and maybe a fuel tank heater pad (couple of oil sump heater pads on the fuel tank) when you park it for the night.

my 6.2 is still a virgin. It just sits and gets driven around the block on occasion. I'm still working on the inside....stove, fridge, etc. Once It's ready to travel & camp I'll be trying blends and such.

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Place banana in your ear.
Observe that there is no alligators around.
Conclude bananas placed in ears keep aligators away.

I tied it, Bananas do not work in South Louisiana. I have two allegators in my front yard.



i found this stuff called StarTron diesel engine enzyme treatment. It says it stabilizes fuel and prevents bcteria from growing. Has anybody tried it? I plan on running 85% WVO 10%RUN 5%1-K but don't really burn alot of fuel.

Keep me posted when you get the 6.2 running on a blend and I will do the same.
Rusty

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i found this stuff called StarTron diesel engine enzyme treatment. It says it stabilizes fuel and prevents bcteria from growing. Has anybody tried it? I plan on running 85% WVO 10%RUN 5%1-K but don't really burn alot of fuel.

Initially I was blending with something similar called Slime-EX; I imagine the Gasoline in your intended blend will keep the bacteria at bay if that is your concern. This is just my opinion though, not a fact.

I’ve read that it’s theoretically possible to grow algae in WVO but has anyone here ever actually had an algae problem?

no algae in mine yet,must be doin' somethin' right, I use startron in my mix, not really sure if it is doing anything yet, I'm keeping my eye on it, so far so good, happy veggin'

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Originally posted by Jeepman:

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Place banana in your ear.
Observe that there is no alligators around.
Conclude bananas placed in ears keep aligators away.

I tied it, Bananas do not work in South Louisiana. I have two allegators in my front yard.....

I put that in when I lived in OH. Was raised in north FL with a bayou nearly in my back front yard. Had plenty of gator adventures. Should have known that not to be true

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Originally posted by veggedout:
no algae in mine yet,must be doin' somethin' right, I use startron in my mix, not really sure if it is doing anything yet, I'm keeping my eye on it, so far so good, happy veggin'

How long have you let the fuel sit? Im glad to hear it should hurt to add it. I just drive my personal vehicle so infrequently I am worried the fuel may go bad before i burn it.

Whats the longest anyone has gone and not had bad fuel with blending?

I have never understood. I work on fire alarm systems and alot of big buildings use diesel fire pumps with a 100 gallon tank. I can't imagine that tank sitting there full of fuel being a good thing. I also can't see them changing 100 gallons of fuel every couple of months.

sorry, i more quick question. I see WVO waist vegitable oil. Is peanut oil ok? I think it is better as far as oil goes. I has a higher smoking temp and all. I am just not sure as far as fuel goes. Thanks in advance for the help.

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Whats the longest anyone has gone and not had bad fuel with blending?

As long as you want to keep it, if it stays cold, in a sealed container, out of the sun, and contains no moisture.
That's sorta like asking "How much is too big?"
Not trying to be a smart a$$, it's just that such questions can't be answered.

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Originally posted by Jeepman:
... I see WVO waist vegitable oil. Is peanut oil ok? I think it is better as far as oil goes. I has a higher smoking temp and all. I am just not sure as far as fuel goes...

In the world of cooking oil Peanut oil, like Soy oil, it falls in the catagory of vegetable oil. Rather it be waste or fresh off the shelf its vegetable oil, so yeah its fine. Actually one of the best to use.

Technically (according to Wikipedia FWIW) the peanut is actually a fruit. Useless trivia of the day

Some over 2 years and still fine with no additives, Happy veggin'