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Originally posted by art morgan:
... was afraid of using 25%rug but i know someone that has been using it for 3yrs...

Well get that someone on here to tell us their experience. What vehicle(s) have they done this in. That makes a HUGE difference, for example an old MB is a whole different bird than everything else.

I have a benz and have Run blends but unless I was in the antarctic, I'd be sacred to run 25%.

That said, the owners manual does say you can run up to 30% in extreme cold in Diesel.

For a measly $4 a gal, If your going to blend Kero at 25%,it's going to go a long way so I wouldn't Bother geting too penny pinching!

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Originally posted by DCS:
...the owners manual (MB) does say you can run up to 30% in extreme cold in Diesel. ...

You sure on that? I've never heard it stated it was listed that high in any manual MB or not but I well could be wrong.

well if i use kero in 35f how much do i need to mix

20% K-1, 5% RUG, 1% PGT, anything over 65F 10% K-1, 5% RUG 1% PGT

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Originally posted by jeepin, moggin Jessup (coachgeo):

quote:

Originally posted by DCS:
...the owners manual (MB) does say you can run up to 30% in extreme cold in Diesel. ...

You sure on that? I've never heard it stated it was listed that high in any manual MB or not but I well could be wrong.

Yes, Sir DCS is very correct.
That's exactly what Mercedes says.
By the way..Deutz... says the same.

BMW Fan

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Originally posted by BMW Fan:
...That's exactly what Mercedes says.
By the way..Deutz... says the same.

thanks I had not heard it stated at that high a ratio. What era of MB and Deutz? For example manuals referencing 61x MB IDI engines, Deutz IDI engines orr???

i am thinking of using 15%rug and 15%petro diesel in 35f. do you think it will be thin enough to run. i am still afraid of using 25%rug.

That should work fine but you should get a good cetane boost for your mix to help with starting, since your still adding quite a bite of octane with all that RUG, also K-1 thins better than Diesel so it would take less to do the same, depending on cost and how easy it is to obtain, happy veggin'

What would be the most %rug you would thin down with.

1% per degree C below freezing.
for example 10% RUG at -10°C [14°F]

90%wvo 10%rug in a unheated tank is not enough to blend with at 14 F. Do you think otherwise?

I need at least 25% thinner plus some additives to start my cars with soybean oil at 32F, canola must be less viscious than soy bean, find a source of old stale gas and thin for free, happy veggin

Got to get me some canola

same here, but I have about 350 gal of used soy sitting out back!!!

Ok, I have been reading these posts and have some questions. First I have a military take-out GM 6.2 that I am installing in a Toyota Land Cruiser. I live in Texas and usually we have fairly mild winters but it does get below freezing at nights occassionally for several days. I am getting a little confused with all the additives I keep seeing mentioned. I am going to have heated fuel lines (electric and coolant), a heated filter and injection line heaters. Is this overkill? What percentage blend could I use? I sounds like RUG may be the way to go but am I going to boil it out with my heat? What about kerosene? The only place I have found kerosene here is a Home Depot and other hardwares stores and it is $7 a gallon! I don't mind different blends in different seasons. Do you think I could turn the heat off during our 100º summers? I don't mind using the coolant heaters, and the electric heaters (except for the injection line heaters) are thermostatically controlled. Just looking for some wisdom, I am excited to get started. Also, I am building a centrifuge WVO cleaner so my oil should be clean.
Rusty

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Originally posted by john galt:
the search function on this forum is real clumsy to use, ...then click on 'refine search' for more specific info about that engine
then look for... (keywords of choice)

Well I'll be damned. Learn something new every day. THANX. Didn't catch onto that feature in all the years I've been here.

can anyone tell me how much pgt to use per % of wvo

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Originally posted by art morgan:


can anyone tell me how much pgt to use per % of wvo

Welcome to the board Art.

no we can't tell you it's a deep secret LOl..... Actually we can't "tell" you cause this is a very non exact science at this point in time. There is no KNOWN best %. We are all just doing educated guesses here ourselfs

I suggest you read this whole thread and a few others to educate yourself then throw out at us what % your thinking and why, then we will add our .02 to it. Then you can make your own decision. Be prepeared to make adjustments

Geo is right, you will have to do some research. Here is some useful info on turpentine.
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums?a=search&reqWord...rum_scope=9751014871
Start with 0.1% of the total fuel tank volume and work up from there.