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so i just about figured what kind of blend i want to run but to be honest, I DONT KNOW HOW! how do i properly blend the clean filtered WVO with whatever i intend to blend it with? of course im hoping to hear i can just pour it in the tank in correct proportions but im guessing it cant be that easy, PLEASE HELP!
 
Registered: 01 January 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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The discussions here
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/frm/f/9751014871
cover the subject extensively.
Read those then come back with specific questions.


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'89 Toyota 3.4L TDI + FPHE
BD+ULSD+VO+JetB blends
 
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How much are you going to be mixing at a time? I mix 50 gal. at a time in a 55 gal. drum. I pump my oil in, add my RUG and whatever additives I am using at the time, seal it up and rock the barrel for about 5 minutes. I unseal the barrel put my breather back on it and I'm done.


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Hello gregamuffin, I found these forums useful for understanding blending. I have arranged them in order of usefulness.

Mixed Fuels Forums
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veggie_fuel_blennders/
http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=54
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/frm/f/9751014871
http://www.burnveg.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4
http://www.frybrid.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4
http://www.navitron.org.uk/forum/index.php/board,19.0.html

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Location: Amarillo, TX | Registered: 15 November 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Originally posted by bio_cowboy:
Hello gregamuffin, I found these forums useful for understanding blending.


Hey gregamuffin,

I wouldn't recommend using those forums as a means to actually "understand" blending. They might be good to connect with like minded people, but they contain as much conjecture and misinformation as they do useful testimony or critical analysis.

Try Ray Holan's book, "Sliding Home." It is readily available on the net, pretty cheap and best of all, it is well researched. It is not "peer reviewed" scientific literature or anything but it covers all your blending options and is very well written. Am pretty sure it is previewed on Google Books,maybe scribD?

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Originally posted by bio_cowboy:
so i just about figured what kind of blend i want to run ... im hoping to hear i can just pour it in the tank in correct proportions but im guessing it cant be that easy, PLEASE HELP!


What is your blend ratio? As I pour in liquids I often rock the chassis while I do so. Depends a little on the shape of your tank, but driving should mix most things together. To determine the mix-ability, just pour some of the mix in a clean container and let it settle. Shake it and see if it takes longer to separate, or if it separates at all!

Aloha!
 
Registered: 27 July 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Hello Patrick Day Kennedy (AKAs: mixelpix, mixelpix86, mixelpix86@yahoo.com, 1978_300D, and Aloha_Diesel). With the recent occurrence of hostilities on this forum I am reminded of past hostilities here and on other bio-fuels forums, where the perpetrator is always the same person, and wonder why the consistent perpetrator here remains on this forum, whereas he is generally banned from other forums; while those who provide meaningful information here are consistently banned from this forum, but are valued elsewhere?

Forum Politics that is suppressive of blended fuels
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veggie_fuel_blennders/message/53
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veggie_fuel_blennders/message/54
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9751014871/m/8721046362
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9751014871/m/9801044362
 
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Hello Patrick Day Kennedy (AKAs: mixelpix, mixelpix86, mixelpix86@yahoo.com, 1978_300D, and Aloha_Diesel).


bio_cowboy

You have me confused with someone else.

Didn't you used to post here as Jeffrey S. Brooks, though?

Aloha!
 
Registered: 27 July 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I looked on ScibD and Googlebooks and the book isn't previewed on either - which I am sure Ray appreciates Wink

It is a good read, I have a copy, will gladly PM ya some quotes if you like.

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To determine the mix-ability, just pour some of the mix in a clean container and let it settle. Shake it and see if it takes longer to separate, or if it separates at all!


Whoops, meant to say a clear container. That way you can actually see the constituent layers Roll Eyes Big Grin LoL

Imagine the clear bottle - you could cut the top off of a gallon jug of drinking water - is your tank and watch what happens as you pour your "clean filtered WVO with whatever [you] intend to blend it with."

I'm not saying anything as drastic will happen, but y'know how if you pour water into concentrated acid you risk flash boiling the water and getting splashed with acid, but if you pour acid on your skin you want to pour a large volume of water on it? Watch the liquids closely as they mix and then note any difference in miscibility when pouring one into a greater quantity of the other and that should answer your concerns about tank mixing sufficiently.

Aloha!
 
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