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They were in the local news last week. Something about owing their customers lots of money/products and not delivering. -Jim |
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I hate to say it but it's awfully nice to see some of these guy's get the publicity they deserve...BAD publicity on the news....
Doesn't surprise me though. This time of year is really slow for Biodiesel Retailers & it's really easy for them to get caught floating money. I've heard about stuff like that happening several times. Guess what goes around comes around, eh? What's that Karma thing again?  -Graydon
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The problem is, as I have said before, that these guys who only have their bank accounts at heart will end up doing more harm than good to the community in general.
John (or Jane) Q. Public diesn't know zilch about biodiesel other than what the talking heads on the MSM tell them, and what makes news? The homebased biodiesel producer that is showing that energy independance is viable, or the schmuck that is out for a quick buck with a cheap and inferior product that ends up screwing up the customer in some way ? Caveat Emptor has never applied so well as when considering buying a commercial biodiesel plant which is why building your own guarentees you the quality you are looking for at a reasonable price.  **My reactor/processor :B100WH.com ** Video of my system **The Colaborative Biodiesel Tutorial **B100 Heated Winter System ** Biodiesel Glycerine Soap - Make & sell soap from Biodiesel Glycerine |
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Found another one...
  http://www.biodiesel123.com. Not much info on them though. -Graydon
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JOAT found this one....
Freedom Fuels  www.freedomfuels.net  If you look closely they've even got a heating element mounted in their tank. Great find Joat.. -Graydon
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Freedumb Fuels?
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Ba-Dum-Bum...CHING! Man, you're on a roll! Loved it! -Graydon
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The prices on these processors is just ridiculous. The one from freedom fuels is not even assembled in any way and they want $2,000 for it!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 40 Gallon 2 tank Biodiesel processors, Well built, Easy to use, Quality parts. pm for pictures and details! http://www.revolution-biodiesel.com/ Running B100 in my Ford 2004 and 2005 F-350 Ext Cab |
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They know they won't be around for very long so are consolidating their profits on as many that they can sell before the fetilizer hits the rotating cooling devise and pe3ople realise they are being taken for a ride, ... IMO.
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Man you have a way with words....I wish I had your gift...That was great! -Graydon
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That's too funny....
Guess you've gotta give it to these guy's for creativity though. -Graydon
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First the scam and then once the profit is made there is the scram.
 **My reactor/processor :B100WH.com ** Video of my system **The Colaborative Biodiesel Tutorial **B100 Heated Winter System ** Biodiesel Glycerine Soap - Make & sell soap from Biodiesel Glycerine |
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This is really amusing. They have a photo of a heater in the plastic tank, and they call it...
a reaction accelerator:  http://www.freedomfuels.net/html/catalog.htm This firestarter costs $500 more than the non-heated one. I believe a heating element costs about $10. I wonder if they included a thermostat with that or if you just turn it on and turn it off manually. Even if they got a super-fancy, extra-low-watt heating element from grainger, that would run about $75. I wonder if that thin-looking, loose orange cord is a extension cord from Harbor Freight or if they actually bought some cord from HOme Depot for that. Ack! Here's the literature on it:
The dumbass above mentions retrofitting the Reaction Meltdowner onto existing plastic tanks. Wow, that's scary. It sorta proves my point that no matter how much you claim that a plastic reactor doesn't need internal heat, sooner or later some dumbass will come along and thread a heater onto it or dunk a heater spear into it. Ouch. |
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Now Mark, THIS dumbass has used a heater spear in a poly drum several times without incident.
Of course mine is slightly modified for that express purpose as pictured here. It sits in the drum like this, is retained at the top with a dead weight so it doesn't tip forward and burn the bottom creating, well, you know... And I got another one that looks just like it for the 1,000litre tote I am storing canola in. Now if I burn a hole in THAT I gots a problem  **My reactor/processor :B100WH.com ** Video of my system **The Colaborative Biodiesel Tutorial **B100 Heated Winter System ** Biodiesel Glycerine Soap - Make & sell soap from Biodiesel Glycerine |
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It would be alot safer and easier to recirculate the biodiesel through a heat exchanger with the same type element in it . This would eliminate the potential for someone to accidentally bump the heater and cause it to come into contact with the plastic drum . Your design is better than simply dropping a heating element into the drum , but it is not hard to imagine a situation where it could shift and melt through the drum . With a separate heat exchanger it would be nearly impossible to melt the drum .
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Didn't I recently post a picture of a Heater Spear melt-through when something slipped (not on my reactor of course)?
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Not that I have seen here. dodgeram; Of course you are essentially correct, although what someone else would be doing in my reactor room is an altogether other question :-) Could I accidentally bump into it ? It is of course possible,which is why I have a dead weight to assure that it doesn't tip forward and this would give me time to readjust it so it doesn't swing to the side and do the damage there. An in-line heater would solve the potential problem, no doubt, although I built the spears before the concept became known to me, and I have used them extensively without a single hitch, like them, and will continue to use them as I do not see them as a safety issue in my situation.This may not be the same for other situations of course. **My reactor/processor :B100WH.com ** Video of my system **The Colaborative Biodiesel Tutorial **B100 Heated Winter System ** Biodiesel Glycerine Soap - Make & sell soap from Biodiesel Glycerine |
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Legal,
You are fighting a battle you will never win with the people who dont like the plastic cone bottom tanks. The plastic tanks are dangerous "if"........ and that is the dangerous aspect of them...."if" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 40 Gallon 2 tank Biodiesel processors, Well built, Easy to use, Quality parts. pm for pictures and details! http://www.revolution-biodiesel.com/ Running B100 in my Ford 2004 and 2005 F-350 Ext Cab |
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Maybe add a 4-way (cross) on the bottom of the L section. Then put two capped lines off of the cross. This would act like a double kick stand and keep it off of the sides even if it does get bumped.
-Jim www dot FryerPower dot com 1987 300DT (The sedan, not the wagon.) Some modifications to the fuel system. 1995 S350D Unmodified fuel system. I plead the 5th. |
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