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This is not a politcal forum.

Let's not take this route.


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Location: North Tx | Registered: November 23, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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You're quite right. People poisoning the air they breathe isn't a political issue. It's a matter of personal choice, unless it affects the rest of society.



 
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Just for the record I have been using a cat heater for 15 years in a RV and it has not killed me yet.
 
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Just for the record: Do you live in your RV 24-7?
Do you smoke cigarettes?



 
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Nope and nope, and nope I don't keep count of the number of days spent with a cat heater.
 
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John,

again thank you for the warning. I got it.

This is a temporary solution and I will do my best to ventilate properly.

As to death... it does not scare me. I dont welcome it either. But if it happens... I got no family, and overall dont think anyone would really give a shiat but for a few minutes.

So lets agree to drop this path of discussion. It has served its purpose.


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As to death... it does not scare me. I dont welcome it either. But if it happens... I got no family, and overall dont think anyone would really give a shiat but for a few minutes.

I am of the same opinion. However, I've come to value your opinions and input on various forums, and would hate to see that impaired or terminated before your time. I guess I was just being selfish. No intent to meddle or control.



 
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[... No intent to meddle or control.
Did not take it that way. Again; appreciate the concern. You are right to express your concerns.

keeps things on an even keel.


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Indoor hot water radiator - School busses and some older trucks have hot water cab heaters that are self-contained with an outer housing enclosing the radiator as well as a 12 volt fan. Maybe I spend way too much time wandering around my local salvage yard.
 
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Indoor hot water radiator - School busses and some older trucks have hot water cab heaters that are self-contained with an outer housing enclosing the radiator as well as a 12 volt fan. Maybe I spend way too much time wandering around my local salvage yard.


Wow,

That brings back memories...
I vaguely remember a box under one of the seats, about 2/3 the way back in the old yellow busses.

What was the energy source? Engine Heat? In that case, it is little different from any other heater core, other than it being a self-contained unit.
 
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What was the energy source? Engine Heat? In that case, it is little different from any other heater core, other than it being a self-contained unit.


Correct, engine coolant is the heat source. Similar heaters are used in the back of Suburbans and Landcruisers.

Put a propane fired DHW heater in an attached shed outside, add a 12v pump moving a few GPM to the heater, use an electric baseboard thermostat to turn on the pump and fan, and you've got an inexpensive, safe, 12v cabin heater.



 
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J. C. Whitney has several versions of these auxiliary hot water radiators available new HERE but a bit more expensive than from a salvage yard. There listing will give you a rough idea of the comparison between radiator size and BTU amount if nothing else. I have found similar units under the bunks in old salvage yard semi sleeper cabs.
 
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I still think that an old car radiator with electric automobile fan would be the "classy" way to go Smile

Probably essentially the same as the boxes, but without the box. And, of course, more surface area on the heat exchanger. You would, however, need to devise pipe reducers for the auto radiators.

Old Steam Radiators, of course, are designed to soak up heat, then radiate the heat over time.
 
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People poisoning the air they breathe isn't a political issue.



That's true, but pretending that Canada is a socialist nation (we're capitalist) also has nothing to do with air quality.

Bashing Americas' flaws is a popular Canadian passtime, but if it weren't for Uncle Sams' geographically defensive need to keep Canada out of the Kremlins' empirical clutches throughout the cold war period, I'm not sure we'd be living in a workers paradise today...
 
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This is not a politcal forum.

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Sorry George, I was just defending Canadas' reputation.

Many Americans lack detailed knowledge of Canada and I wouldn't want Johns error to convince any American forum members that we're socialist.

Canada is capitalist, not socialist.

Anyway, I won't go OT anymore unless more propaganda creeps up...
 
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I think the point of the posting was about heaters, and not capitalism or socialism.

However, there is always a spectrum between the two. As the US federal government is now becoming one of the largest stock holders on the planet.

You will find numerous incursions into socialism in the USA including "social security", Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare. And, you would have to ask why close to 1/3 of our government is the federal government.

You might want to thank FDR for sneaking in "New Deal" and "Social Security".

Canada, of course, is well known for their socialized medicine program.

The USA, of course, is known for our "gap" in medical care. And, the US System, by design, essentially has to have a gap between the covered and the uncovered. If you gave free insurance to everyone who didn't want to pay for it... guess who all would want FREE insurance. And, if you reduced Medicaid, then there would just be a larger gap.
 
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Propane RV heater -- ...I still like the idea of a small propane salvage yard water heater located outside with a basebord water radiator inside and a shurflo pump to move the water, use radiator hose to connect it all up....
An RV water heater is only 6gal. Would that be enough Gal?

I may can scavange the hot water heater out of my old my 85 Scamp 5th wheel. Christmas holiday project possibly.

For low buck heat exchanger would think junk auto heater cores would be better. could even get the fans and motors.


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An RV water heater is only 6gal. Would that be enough Gal?

What is the BTU/hr input or output rating, that's the important number. It has to match or exceed the heat loss of the building at the lowest temperature.



 
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...What is the BTU/hr input or output rating, ...
I would not even know where to start to find out that. Is that a figure that is normaly in the manual spec. page? I think some of the books are still in the camper.


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There is a 'nameplate' on the unit with this information. Or get the Make and model and ask Google.



 
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