Had an apparently blind attendant fill up my '06 Liberty CRD with unleaded last night. It is "illegal" for me to do it myself. It was nearly empty...I drove about 15 miles at freeway speeds thinking it was water. Looked at the receipt and heart sank.

The station is accepting full responsiblity, it is at the dealership being checked out, but since we have had less than satisfactory service and repair from Chrysler, what should we insist they check out, replace, repair?

I've never done it myself, but from what I've read on multiple Diesel forums, if you simply drain the gas and fill it with fresh fuel then you should be OK.

I *always* watch when I'm in New Jersey and need to let one of there minimum wage rocket scientists pump my fuel ;-)

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It is "illegal" for me to do it myself.

WHAT!?! There are places in this country where you can't pump your own fuel?

Just Oregon, as far as I know. I don't live there, but I read it's not illegal to pump your own diesel there. Right?

Oregon is one of the few states that has no self service (as someone else mentioned, New Jersey may also be the same).

There is self-service for Commercial fueling.

And, Diesel is a bit complicated.

Oregon also has PUC (weight-mile-taxes) for the larger trucks, who then pay less fuel taxes.

So...

You can get card-lock fuel at a few stations with a business (with or without PUC).
Some filling stations have a "MotorHome" lane that is self-service without a PUC.

Since my FIAT (gasoline) has a short fill-spout, I've convinced some gas station attendants to allow me to top-off my own tank. I get about a 2-Gallon fillup if I don't top it off.

Soon, Oregon is trying to pass a law prohibiting topping off the tanks. I'm not quite sure what I'll do in that case.

I don't know about running 100% gasoline. It is not uncommon for it to happen. I've seen a gas station attendant siphoning gas at a station once because of a similar accident.

The key is to pay attention to what goes into your vehicle.

I'd siphon the tank.
Probably have the station pay for a new fuel filter and oil change.
Then see how it goes.

I have no idea what damage it will do to your engine, but I would imagine that you'd see something fuel related within 10,000 miles if anything is going to happen (more oil consumption, bad compression, etc). If your jeep "checks out" after 10,000 miles, then there would be no basis for replacing the engine 100,000 miles later.

I have a great idea...

Especially for Oregon and New Jersey...
But, also in general.

Let's incorporate Square Spouts and Round Spouts.

I'm not sure how to deal with the big and little spouts... but it can't be that complicated to make a filling spout that would be difficult to mix up. I'm not sure about what to do with older vehicles, but one could certainly design an optional adapter plate that could be retrofitted.

I remember my old '76 AMC Hornet.
No catalytic Converter.
But, technically required unleaded gas which was expensive and hard to find.

It had a little ring that would exclude the "leaded" fuel nozzle.

I think the dealer told us how to carefully clip the ring out!!!!!!!! (which, of course, we would never have considered doing)

Ok,
So the low tech approach of putting a round tube into a square hole may be too complicated to convert to, in part due to dealing with the super-sized truck nozzles. But, one could certainly put a sensor into the fill spout and the car that would trigger an alarm if the wrong fuel was used (either way, gas or Diesel). It could probably even be made pretty low tech with a polar magnet and a shutter to exclude the wrong spout.

Because you have a party accepting responsibility,have the fuel pumps and injectors checked/replaced. Drain the tank and purge the lines. (Do you trust the dealer?)

As this group knows gasoline has little if any lubrication .

*I doubt any components are really damaged. Unless the tank was dry empty, some diesel is still mixed in this.
If all the fuel is removed including engine bay filters and lines, and refilled with correct fuel and new filters, i expect it to run right within minutes.*

Update. We had the vehicle towed to the dealership. They removed and drained the tank, replaced fuel filter, changed oil and oil filter. Test drove it. Engine light came on. It was a "turbo sensor" $300 to replace. Station paid $700, but would not cover sensor. I requested the used part. This sensor has a small, about 1/2" diameter cone shaped screen that was completely covered with black oily soot. I am sure it is EGR related, exhaust recirculation problems...now I need to figure out how to bypass that system so the Liberty can breath!

Seems to be running fine now, but I am concerned about the lack of upper end lubrication for the 15-20 minutes it was operating on unleaded...

Incidentally, the dealer swears you cannot run this 2006 Liberty on bio...(been doing it for a year...my own special B100 homebrew...I just didn't have the heart to tell him!)

So, thanks for your responses...and yes, it is a $30,000 fine for the station if you are caught pumping your own fuel in Oregon. I pulled up to the diesel pump,(green handle) my cap is green, it has large letters saying "Diesel Only"...but...the only safe way is to make it at home and put it in your own self! Bio all the way!