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We all know (I hope) the laws of transformations of energy, also known as the 4 laws of thermodynamics.
Well, yesterday I have witnessed how matter can be transformed just as easily as energy.

It all started when I decided to make my second batch of soap. So, after gathering all I needed, I started by freezing the water, heating the fats (a total of 8 kilos), and getting everything measured up and ready.
And then it happened. Once the fats were at the right temperature, I mixed the lye and the water, and after just a few moments of sloppy chemistry, I could witness firsthand how the 8 kilos of fats , and about 3 kilos of water and lye, got "magically" (or should I say, "chemically") transformed into roughly 11 kilos of...GARBAGE! Mad

What can I say...? Science never fails to amaze me...


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Berny,

Most soap can be recovered.

What is making the soap "Garbage"? To thin, caustic hot, mushy?


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Not this one. One of my mistakes was to dump all the lye/water mixture at once, without stirring. It formed chunks of something very hard, about the size of hazelnuts. It wasn't soap. I tried it, and it wouldn't dissolve in water.
Anyways, I'll probably make another batch on Friday.
Thanks Rick, for the reply. I really didn't think I was gonna get any. I just posted out of frustration.


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I found that using an electric hand mixer with continued stirring until the mixture thickened really helped. If I only used a spoon and hand stirred I got soap that was giving off beads of glycerin.

Kept the mixture at about 150 F with mixing for about 10 minutes, poured into a mold and released it the following day.
 
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Yep. I do have a stick blender I bought specifically for the soap. I just decided ( stupidly) to dump all of the lye in before blending.


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"Wars not make one great" Yoda.

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Bernyjb,

Take comfort in knowing you are not the first to do such a thing. I have a 5 gallon bucket of the best soap in the world. It will take everything off your hands - including your fingerprints.


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It will take everything off your hands - including your fingerprints.


Well, I'm sure a lot of criminals would be willing to give it a try... Big Grin

Seriously, what happened?
Did you go crazy with the lye?


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"Wars not make one great" Yoda.

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Seriously, what happened?
Did you go crazy with the lye?


Yup,

Backyard chemistry, no scale, no measuring device. Just a little of this, a little of that, err... a LOT of that, mix and poof! Razz

It does make great soap, but any open cuts on your hands and you'll know it!


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Hmmm.
I'm just talking out of complete ignorance here, but, can't you keep adding more glycerin (kinda like rebatching) until you can neutralize the excess lye?


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Yes,

But if you are trying to add hardness its best to use a whole oil or fatty acid such as steric acid. The whole oil or fatty acid will use up more excess lye with less material.

I always check the pH of my soap and adjust accordingly. Usually with a bit of steric acid or lye water... depending.


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Making Biodiesel Byproduct Soap Learn how to use your biodiesel byproducts to make great bar and liquid soap!!!

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