I forgot to mention that the used petrol oil will be worked with cold in order to use the most viscosity improving portions.

Another interesting concept I am looking at which will start out as a WVO scrubbing trick is adding acid before dewatering (prefilterd & settled) and conducting a acid/h2o wash before dewatering...

H20 + heat does little to lipids or esters... H20 + heat + acid can break them down some...
H20 + heat + base breaks them down as well...

So a base a base h20 wash will follow...

For bio D I'm thinking of eventually using a acid/h20 followed by a base/h20 process preceeding anything involving alcohol transesterfication..

It will go from acidic, to base on the first two washes... Then the ethanol + acid first step... Glycerine retraction then ethanol + base second step with glycerine retraction... The final step will be a final bubble wash with the water ph spiked to balance out the end product..

Its all just going to be mini batches in glass jars untill I have a repeatable and capable process...

Hello All, just digested several years of thread on The Masters Forumula and have one question please. l have a newish direct injection Ford Transit Turbo Deisel and l have not seen a definitive answer as to if this method will work in my vehicle. Any body run the gold in direct injection or common rail injection for any length of time. As l'm about to build my processor and wash tank and settling tank etc this method sounds like it makes the regular process obsolete, and hopefully saves a lot of time and energy, almost to good to be true.

Regards

Peter from Outer Mongolia

The Masters Formula does indeed work, and puts all the ingredients including the glycerine into a stable solution,,,,,, the drawbacks are, it does increase the viscosity,but with the added Ethanol it makes no difference......

OCH, does this mean that we still need to heat the fuel

Hello peter
Do you have access to anhydrous ethanol in Outer Mongolia?
I suspect there are very few people who have tried the Masters Formula and actual experience is almost non-existant.
I advise caution as some direct injection diesels are a bit picky as to what they burn

Hello apwdistribuiting
You said:
the drawbacks are, it does increase the viscosity,but with the added Ethanol it makes no difference......
Can you please explain why the ethanol makes the increase in viscosity of no concern

TILLY
i didn't post my question properly.
the statment was a quote from OCH and a was wondering if since the viscocity is not that of diesel is it necessary to heat the fuel.

Hello Ridley

Guns do not make the bullets go fast, gunpowder makes the bullets go fast!

...but making a bullet go fast without a gun would be very dangerous therefore we can conclude that guns make bullets safe.

Bullets are perfectly safe
It is the holes they leave behind that are of concern.
Bullets do not Kill people, holes kill people.

So, if one does not occupy the space where a safe bullet wishes to make a hole everything is as safe as a house.

Agreed! It's all in where you stand.

That is it,

I have personally never seen a bullet or a bomb which had any malice.
Even Land-mines are peace loving.
If people are silly enough to be standing in the wrong place at the right time, it is their bad luck.

9 times out of 10 it is the hole that is the problem

Why would you want to blame it on expanding gases or heat?
Beware of holes!

quote:

Tilly's right, the hole and the trauma and leakage it causes is the problem.

Or is a symptom of the problem?...

Ahhh,...but i'm intrested in the undrlying phenomena that causes the holes.

I hold that holes can spontaneously appear anywhere. Quantum Mechanics (the most successful physical theory ever) predicts that there is a small,but finite, probablity that a hole can appear anywhere whatsoever. So never mind the guns, bullets, expanding gasses, etc. We are all doomed to expire of leakage!

On the other hand quantum mechanics predicts that there is a small, but finite, probability that a Gurnsey dairy cow will materialize in you kitchen. But, it is probably a safer play to plan on purchasing your dairy products at your local Safeway

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Oil Can Harry:
Diff..........

Thanks for the praise,, I am really very happy to bring our working formula to the forum and also the world....

I know that sooner or later someone will try to steal it and say it is theirs, but we know the difference.......

The Masters Formula does indeed work, and puts all the ingredients including the glycerine into a stable solution,,,,,, the drawbacks are, it does increase the viscosity,but with the added Ethanol it makes no difference......

Oil Can Harry

does this mean that we should still heat the fuel, refering to the viscosity.

I have just entered the Bio dome and have experienced glycerin solidification in the bottom of my reacter drain. my intent was to drain off , but I was a little slow. the problem is my element is exposed a couple of inches, should I dump enough Oil in to heat and drain? Will the oil seperate out or will I be left with even more glop?

OHC

im going to get a sample of some oil from a rendering co. & was wandering how well it will work with your procces.
have you tried it with other wvo ?

BIOHOG:
at this point I don't think it matters if there is more glop or not if you can get your drain unplugged.

I would say add the oil, cover the element, and free the drain.

It may seem a bit wasteful but it will free you up to make another batch.

whatever it takes.

APW........ I have taken bacon and rendered it down at low temps, where the grease remaining is white and then used it very succesfully in my formula, however this is really almost virgin material low in ffa's......

When I put this in my under the hood 1 liter test tank it smelled like bacon cooking when you are going down the road, but other than that no difference......

Oil Can Harry

OCH

i keep reading this thread and cant tell if with your procces you are able to use it w/o heating the fuel once it is in your vehicle.
what is the climate where you are. ( im in portland oregon )
im going back and forth as to putting in a heated system or not.
can you advise or explain?