I have a simple method for converting waste vegetable water fries and all to diesel fuel usable without any conversion to a vehicle. I'm using no pre filtering other than a screen on my vacuum pickup system so I don't have full fries in my system. I'm using no chemicals at all. No salts. This is a chemical reaction minus the chemicals. I am posting all of my findings and experiment on my website hhoforlife.com. There are pictures of my samples. I look forward to chatting with more of you about this process. Once you try this process you will never go back to filters and chemicals it's by far cheaper and can be as simple as pouring the waste vegetable out of your cubies into a barell and getting out diesel fuel. System will work for years. components cost about 200 dollars to build unless you order everything then probably about 100 bucks. Pretty cheap.

OK, tried to find your biodiesel without chemical information. Can't find it. Please try a direct link.

Forbey

Can you post an brief synopsis of how you are doing this?
I am always a little skeptical of someone who claims to have the next best thing and then doesn't post any details. I couldn't find any details on your site as well.
Thanks,
DD

Have you performed a 3/27, or any ASTM test results?

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Don't listen to other people when it comes to biodiesel every batch is unique listen to advice but always test and test again yourself the goal is cheaper and better and flipping the bird at petro co's

Yeah... don't listen to the trusted friends you've learned from and maybe even taught a little to (if you're lucky) over the years here on this site. Listen to some guy you've never heard of, who tells you he has the 'secret' to making cheap fuel. Sounds fishy to me.

I have a cheap easy way to make biodiesel too.... it's called transesterfication. Perhaps you've heard of it?

Bull S**T.

It's the "Harry Potter" reactor!! LOL

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I am posting all of my findings and experiment on my website

"Experiment" being the key word here

Before you know it, add a little unleaded, a little dyno diesel and a little of the secret ingredient to the gallons to SVO. Oh wait... someone has already done that.

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I'm using no chemicals at all. No salts

BTW, who makes bio out of salts anyway? Damm low sodium diets....

And all the home brewer needs to have is a vessel that can be pressurized to 750psi and heated to 450F.

Ok So i wanted to get back on here and let everyone know this is not spam. I really wanted people to come to my site. I host alot of alt energy solutions on my site and offer tons of free information although i have a private section were i have posted most of the information. I only allow people in there who have signed a non disclosure contract. I absolutely can't lose this patent this time like the others. If you want to sign a non disclosure contract i'll get the pass no prob.

btw the pressure is not 750 psi it's 0 - 10 psi the rest i'll happily fill in for you. I'm not making any money on this either I just want people to realize how easy fuel oil #2 is to make. I know this isn't as thin as fuel oil #1 but i have tested this solution and so far with my testing I have seen a cetane value of 55 our diesel locally here in alaska is only 41 just awful for starting even my new 08 diesel.

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Bull S**T.

I second that.

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Originally posted by akford6.4wvo: I host alot of alt energy solutions on my site and offer tons of free information although i have a private section were i have posted most of the information. I only allow people in there who have signed a non disclosure contract. I absolutely can't lose this patent this time like the others.

How do you " Loose" a patent? If you have registered it, it's yours. That's the idea in the first place.

If your giving the info out freely, then the info is out there anyway and there would be little to stop someone patenting the info if you haven't registered it already. If you not making any money out of the idea, what are you trying to protect?

The big problem with what you are posting here is that it all sounds so dodgy, I and I'm sure other people, couldn't be bothered to look at it because of the way you have presented it from the beginning.

Experience has also proven the old adage " If it sounds too good to be true...."
I have never seen a " Miracle" of this type come to anything yet and I'm betting I'm not going to be missing anything by not bothering to look at this one.

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Originally posted by john galt:
What the heck is "waste vegetable water fries and all". This statement is enough to cast doubt on your credibility.

Hey don't laugh yet, while reading the fuel tax forms the other day I noticed on form 720 there is a .198 per gallon tax on Diesel-water fuel emulsion . Compared to regular Diesel which is taxed at .244, you could save .05 per gallon with a little splash of water...

Can't wait to see the new rate for a Biodiesel Emulsion. LOL

Now you can laugh...

sooo is this smoke and mirrors or another "Diesel Secret" product?


Hey look gulible is written on the ceiling!!!

If your going to beat around the bush and stutter and stammer, I'm quickly losing interest.

fabricator and sinbad semm to know......."bulls**t"

Biodiesel is an ester, chemically speaking. It has an alcohol attached. There is no getting around this basic fact.

So, my question is, where did the alcohol group come from in your setup? So unless you can transmutate glycerine into ethanol or methanol or propanol, this is a non-starter.

Now, if you can do that transmutation, you should be starting with lead and making gold. It's a higher profit margin.

Finest regards,

troy

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Originally posted by Kenr34:
Now you can laugh...

HHO! HHO! HHO!

Considering the number of people who desperately wanted to believe in the Over Unity HHO BS being posted on this forum a few months ago, why should we be concerned with making biodiesel using no chemicals.

Diesel/ water emulsions

Just posting to see if this is updated with anything that remotely has substance , not likely .

o.k evidently this website is filled with doubtful clowns. If you combined all the time it took everyone on here to post these useless replies you could have used that time and brain power to work on something great.


Sorry i'm sick of being insulted here. Actually my lawyer just got back with me and it seems the patent office may not approve this as this process has already been patented. I just wanted the acknowledgment of showing everyone how it works. So i'll spill the process for you on my site. In the public section because everyone is too lazy to fill out a simple non disclosure paper and email or fax it to me. I invite anyone to come to see my invention. I live in Wasilla, Alaska.

here is the key here guys which all of you have over looked. What happends to a hydrocarbon chain when you over heat it? It usually loses some of it's chain and reattaches it'self to form another molecule. This product is called gasoil. It's a fuel oil "like" substance because it is not fuel oil. It has a better cetane than diesel at a 55 mark. It's very aromatic "smells like old gym socks" and it so easy to make that i'm building a automated system today from homedepot alone. May cost a few hundred bucks when i'm done because here in alaska scrap metal and such is almost unheard of. Anyways i'm going to spill all the beans including pics on my site here is a direct link
my website


on another note if hho can't give us overunity which i believe it can't.
But hho is rated by a btu rating while ambiently burning at 274 degrees Fahrenheit although it's dynamic and if you use the same unit of fuel to achieve 1150 degrees Fahrenheit isn't it more efficient than when it was measured burning at 274 degrees? Just some food for thought.
Also a gentlemen in Thailand just invented the car that uses an electrolysis's system to run the car only on hho. I have two witnesses on my website that actually flew there and seen it.

you will need to register as a member to see most of the good boards. There is a reason we get more than 700 people a day to my website. Over 100 members. Over 8000 dollars in donations.