Spoke to these people a few days back, they have a ton of diesel treatments including a BD winter treatment they sell.
Here is the link:
Has anyone tried it? tested it? Thoughts?
"Formulated for B20"
I have yet to see a product that even claims to really work for B100--
Would be nice--
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BTom, did you test "Wintron"?
$65/gallon seems rather pricey.
For it to be effective the mix must be cold filtered.
If one cold filters, then does one really need the additive?
According to the graph,
The Wintron X-30 is supposed to do a 15°C to 20°C freezing point depression of the biodiesel with a 1% mix.
So, $65/gallon is a bit expensive. But, that should treat 100 gallons of fuel.
Of course, if your target temp is more moderate, say minimum 5°F, then it would take a 0.2 to 0.3% mix, and you get $65 to treat 500 gallons. That certainly would last me for a few winters.
I can't find the MSDS for the X-30.
The FPPF BIO DIESEL WINTER TREATMENT seems to have fewer notes on the use especially with higher blends. They list 1 gallon / 1000 gallons. 0.1%. But this is for B20 of unspecified origin.
There is a MSDS sheet for the FPPF though.
It appears to be a mix, mainly Naptha, and various hydrocarbons.
One of the interesting additives is:
Ethylene glycol monobutyl ether
It has a low melting point (-107 °F), relatively high boiling point (340 °F), and is miscible in water.
It also has 2-Ethylhexanol, a relatively big alcohol (which has low water solubility), but probably an affinity to organics.
Anyway, I guess the question should be whether these additives at $65/gallon are any better than Gasoline at $3/gallon. Or, whether they are 20x better!!!!
Naptha is essentially "White Gas", or "Camp Fuel", and is also relatively inexpensive.
Ethylene Glycol Monobutyl Ether is what folks call "butyl" as in a "butyl cleaner". It's a staple item in most cleaners from 409 to Windex, or at least it used to be. The ethylene glycols came under attack for safety reasons. I went to propylene glycols years ago. Kind of a sweet smelling ingredient.
In the industry, we call this ingredient EB, or butyl cellosolve. It's a great solvent... miscible in water (mixes) and is a good solvent component to a detergent blend.
I recognize some of the other individual hazardous ingredients as components of an aromatic solvent. Used them for years... staple items in chemical blending. Again, for safety and environmental reasons, I reformulated away from those. But, it should drop the viscosity.
Looking at the MSDS, this is a blend of aromatic and aliphatic solvents. Not really that hazardous, either. Hmmm... I think I have these ingredients around in my lab and in my mixing plant. I may need to do some playing when I get home. Right now I'm on the road going to an ethanol seminar.
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Now that's a lot of info guys, thanks!
The wintron product certainly looks better than what I found since it is for B100.
It also wins the math battle, only increasing my cost per gallon about half as much as 10% kerosene.
Since I am in central California I only need to handle around 20 degrees F which 0.2% of the Wintron would seem to handle...
Any need to worry about the safety of the ingredients in the Wintron product?