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Originally posted by john galt:
When it's all said and done, Tilly can't stop the oilsands and DCS can't stop nuclear power, and neither can their sock puppets. They're both from Australia whose coal exports fuel the biggest polluters on the planet. Everything they post is just an attempted distraction for being unable to face that reality.

Still trying to push that old load of crap 'eh Johhny?

Nothing like spewing up garbage to hide the facts and truth.
Of course Canada being a top world OIL producer doesn't cause any Pollution does it?
The fact Canada has about 20 TIMES the energy reserves in coal that it does in oil? Guess the will just leave it all there and never use any of it 'eh? How about the fact that canada's per capita energy consumption is was above that of Australia's?

I'm not having a go at Canada or blaming them for making the most of their natural resources, they would be mad not to, rather just shoot holes in your endless propaganda and garbage you try try to big note your self on. What you do is about as unbelievable as what you say.

But lets talk about one of your pet subjects, Nuke Vs Coal.
So tell me, when was an exclusion zone of 10 Miles ever declared around a Coal fired Power plant because of a leakage of the fuel or it's waste products?
If Nuke is so clean, how come that has happened on numerous occasions with power plants of that type?

Maybe you can tell me how many coal fired power plants have blown up and then the area's around them have had to be evacuated with no known time of residents of nearby towns ever being able to go back to their homes?

How many acres of land have been laid to waste, uninhabitable, unable for crops to be grown or other wise used productively for decades to come from the fall out of Coal fired Facilities?

How many tons of Nuclear waste does Canada hold Currently and how much is in Australia?

Oh, and Guess what?
You can't do Jack about Australia's coal Production... which is a few down the world list BTW and even if it were as Polluting as Canada's oil, still would be a long way from fuelling the biggest polluters on the planet.

Talk about Distractions for being unable to face reality! Roll Eyes
You wrote the Book on it Galt! Big Grin
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Death Rate From Nuclear Power Vs Coal?

by John Johnston on 03/24/2011

in Earth,Politics,Technology

Death rate from nuclear vs oil vs coal
Seth Godin recently posted this simplified chart,

from an altogether more complicated one. He maintains that this is a simple yet non-exaggerated version of the complicated one. The point is that for each person killed by nuclear power generation, 4,000 die from coal. This is adjusted for how much power is produced by each method of power generation.

He also points out that if we were to take into account such things as deaths from environmental impacts yet unmeasured, due to climate change caused by fossil fuel emissions for instance, the chart would skew even more.

His post is actually focused on the triumph of coal marketing, that we are surprised at what this data shows. How come many of us didn't already know this? I think it is fair to say that most people don't think coal is that much of a killer, but there you have it.

Many of us even know that we consume mercury from deep-sea species of fish, yet many of us still don't connect the dots back to coal at least not consciously.

Having said that, it should also be acknowledged that the number of deaths attributed to nuclear accidents is a source of serious contention. For instance, this recent take-down of the nuclear power industry raises the possibility that the Chernobyl death toll was grossly underestimated by the Soviets and even the international community. Alternatively, there are also reports claiming the death toll from Chernobyl was over-estimated. It's all quite confusing isn't it? How are we to know how accurate the data is?

...but does it really matter? If the death toll from nuclear was ten times greater, it would still be orders of magnitude less than coal

World coal production

1 China
2 United States
3 India
4 European Union
5 Australia
6 Russia
7 Indonesia
8 South Africa
9 Germany
10 Poland

World coal exports

Country Share
Australia 27.1%
Indonesia 26.1%
Russia 10.1%
United States 6.9%
South Africa 6.3%
Colombia 6.3%
Canada 3.0%

Australia, the 5th largest coal producer, and the greatest coal exporter,

exports 9 times as much deadly coal as Canada.

Of course some of them will try to shift the attention to nuclear and oilsands, it's to be expected, it's what people like that do. Notice how their 'argument' is based on personal attacks and bluster, and very little factual evidence to back up their blah, blah, blah.

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There's already a thread for debating nuclear power, so use it and stop highjacking this thread. I will be deleting all the off topic junk in this thread later today or tomorrow, so either save it or copy and paste it into a nuclear power thread here -


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Some insight on the damage of tar sands production.

Those who point the finger at others should check the state of their own backyard before making hypocritical arse holes of themselves.
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There has been a bit of discussion regarding pyrolysis. This appeared in the South African, April edition, of Popular Mechanics.
Have a look.
The Strand is about 50 K's from Cape Town.
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