I am posting the conclusion of my test at the request of hydroxy so here goes. Over a period of 3 months I done a series of production of HHO test all test were repeated 3 times for each step to allow for anomalies.I used different electrolytes sodium hydroxide,potassium hydroxide,baking soda,and common table salt. I used different concentrations of each electrolytes. Documentation includes amp draw,lpm HHO production,and temperature. Test were done with a wet cell w/2"X5" plates with room for a maximum of 15 plates. I used different plate configuration,spacing,and painted the edges of the plates with contact cement. Results of the electrolyte was most significant it didn't make any difference which electrolyte used, the concentration, or any other variable the amp draw,lpm HHO production,and temperature were consistently the same

Examples
• @15 amp production was .8 lpm 90 degree's f
• @20 amp production was 1.2 lpm 130 degree's f
• @35 amp production was 2.1 lpm 185 degree's f

as long as temperature and current draw are regulated the lpm HHO production remains stable. Several changes were made to the plates and all this was able to do was make a more effective use of the space. The most effective configuration used was 2 neutrals between each charged plate(I am under the impression that more neutrals will be better but I don't know where the point of diminishing returns will be) 1 neutral on each outside - charged plate N-NN+NN-NN+NN-N, the edges sealed, and a convection cooling system to regulate temperature. Conclusion if you can regulate temperature you can regulate current draw with electrolyte concentration. If you try to regulate the current draw with a device you still have to regulate the temperature to stabilize HHO production.

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What spacing did you use between the plates ?

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I used .040 nylon washers but that was because I wanted to pack more plates in a whole house water filter. when I used less plates I didn't matter what the spacing was tried .040'.080,.120 all achieved the same results with more concentrated electrolyte for wider spacing.If the cell drawed 20 amps the HHO production was 1.2 lpm. I have a concern about arcing between the plates with close spacing at Higher amperage's even though I tested up to 60 amps without and evidence of arcing.

Could you not use a larger surface area plate? and did you scratch them with coarse sandpaper? It apparently helps with the formation of the gas.

I think you could get lower than 20 amps per 1.2 lpm with larger plates. Some of the ones I've seen have much larger plates,of course the cost comes into play with the larger plates,Unless you know where to scrounge some 316 stainless steel

yes I'm sure the efficiency can be improved by taking advantage of wasted energy. My most significant improvement came from sealing the edges of the plates. The results of my test only reflect what electrolyte or concentration you use the lpm out put is directly relevant to the current input. I had several improvements from different plate configurations. The key is using all the energy input with a wet cell there is a lot of potential for wasting energy. Look at it like electrolyte is a conductor (with a specific amount of resistance,resistance =heat, heat is wasted energy)everywhere there is a conductor there is a potential for current to flow. Current that takes a longer path through resistive material has more resistance to pass through(more heat wasted energy). If the conductive material is consistent then potential output is maximized. Now the dry cell is more efficient all the spacing is more consistent(wet cell has 2 centered attaching points and the outside can be a little inconstant and open for stray electrons to escape and take a longer time to find it's path to ground),edges are completely sealed so no room for lost energy on edges or between plates, and temperature is easier to control with a cooling system.I hadn't thought of the sandpaper trick. Yes that fits into my theory you are creating more surface area by creating a lot of hills and valleys on the same real estate. If you had a corduroy fabric surface pattern you could have up to 50% more surface area. I'm sure that that like I said before there will be a point of diminishing returns. I have to go now I may reread this and edit later