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HI and thanks for the information, yes I would be very interested in meeting you and even helping in to fabercate some of the new system I was a pipe fitter plumber welder for a long time of my life now retired and have free time on my hands. Im in the Enola area (close to Harrisburg )
Im not sure how the post work but thanks and hope to hear from you Thanks again |
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Brian, I process 35 gallons WVO at a time using 8 gal methanol and 2 gal. water (as a prewash). I typically get about 30 gallons of BD. My oil usually titrates under 5ml. In my experience, the higher the titration value, the lower the yield of BD. I always save the last few gallons of the glycerine and let the BD rise to the top. I probably can squeeze out a extra gallon that way... Steve |
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Have about 400 gallons of biodiesel production under my belt and want to try and find a good place to take my glycerine. Somewhere that is using it beneficially. We have not recovered the methanol out of it and it will have water in it from prewashing. So maybe someone out there would like it for recovering the methanol. I enjoy reading everyone's information on here!
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Thanks Steve for that information. To sum up, You process 35 gallons of oil into 30 gallons of biodiesel. That would be about 85ish percent biodiesel yeild from your batch. This seems a little better than the 50% these people were claiming. Even if I count all the stuff added to the process it is 45 gallons of material processed and 30 gallons yeild for about 66% yeild. I helped a guy here get a processor together. He is using the 80/20 process and air washing after. He has not been yeilding as much as you but I think his process needs a little tweaking. I think he has only run 4 batches. Thanks again, Brian 1984 Mercedes 300SD |
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Hello All, Anybody have any experience with algae? I just replaced the fuel filter in my '96 TDI after running B100 all summer. The fuel filter had almost 30K on it. Suddenly the engine lost all power. A new filter fixed 'er right up. For grins I opened up the old one, figuring it would have all sorts of crud from a 12 year old fuel tank. Instead, the filter medium seemed fairly clean, but there was a very noticable clear slime on the paper, especially near the bottom . Any thoughts? Steve
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Just a quick update.
I have over 5000 miles on B100. I took it on vacation to Virginia Beach and side trips for a 726 mile round trip. Carried all my fuel in the trunk. The B100 pump at the Strassburg Wogo was shutdown on Friday and I drove out there on Sunday. Wish I had known in advance. Wish they had left it open until after the weekend. I was hoping for a last fix of B100. There have been a couple of days when the B100 gelled in the lines and I couldn't get her started. When she warmed up again she ran fine. The last 5 gallon container I siphoned in had chunks of coagulated stuff in it from being cold. I have been toying with the idea of using that heating wire that stops water pipes from freezing in the winter and attaching it to the fuel lines and around the filters to warm the biodiesel as it travels through the lines. I would attach any excess heating wire to the return line working from the tank back to the front of the car so it would warm the return fuel to help "melt" the fuel in the tank. What does anyone else around here do to keep running longer into the season? I may be finished for this season though since I can't get anymore B100 and don't make it myself yet. The B100 pump opens up again in April or thereabouts. Maintainance I did: Passenger side rear window regulator slider replaced. Reattach lock to lock mechanism on passenger side front door. New air cleaner mounts. Valve adjustment. It needed it. Clean banjo fitting for ALDA turbo boost control. It needed it. Seal rear window so it doesn't leak rainwater into the trunk. Replaced the rubber bushing and "O"rings on the turbocharger oil return line. It really needed it. Tough job but nice to not be dripping oil everywhere. Things to do: Fix heater so heat comes out all the time and diverters work. Fix radio. That's all from here. Thanks to all who contributed to my getting this far. Brian 1984 Mercedes 300SD |
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Brian,
I also bought B100 from Rineer in Strasburg last year before I started producing my own this Spring. I stocked up before they closed the pump for the winter and blended with Kerosene for a B80 blend and then a B60 from mid Dec to mid Feb. I'll be doing the same this year but with my own homebrewed stuff. Sorry to hear you'll be back on the dino diesel this Winter. Cheers! This message has been edited. Last edited by: PbIntoAu, "mixing up a bunch of magic stuff" Al 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD - B100 2005 Ford F250 6.0 -B100 Kubota BX 2300 - B100 Lopi Republic 1250 - Glycerol/Sawdust Logs |
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My first posting here. I've washed homebrew bio and have used it last summer and now am making my processor. I have the parts together - a few questions;
>I read I should replace the 220V element in the H2O heater with a 110V - correct?? > Where should the pump be mounted - below or above the drain line on the processor? I have the standard 1 inch blue pump. I'm eager to get started but don't expect my first batch until the spring. All also looking for a diesel pick up to burn the bio. |
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HI Eagledenny
May I ask what size tank are you using (no of gal's) the 24o volt heater may be ok if you have the 24o volt line. With my system I hav the punp supply coming from the tank drain valve and the pump out going to the top of the tank cold inlet, also you would need to have a cross and valves to be able to transfer the finish bio to other tanks. let me know if you need or want any more help be glad to help you in any way thanks and good luck glenn |
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hey Brian, I have a 95 E300 that is garage kept and is a spare vehicle at this point so I have some leeway. I bought 2 heating pads from Wolverine- a 110v pad for the fuel tank and a 12v fuel filter pad that I wired into a switch in the console. I also insulated the fuel lines with the thin silver stuff that comes in a roll, I think its for pole barns. It was easy to do- I cut a strip a little wider than 5" and simply unscrewed the clips that hold the fuel line and return line, pulled the lines away from the body and slid the insulation in and sealed it up with duct tape. I got pretty much all of it covered except where it passes between the steering box and frame. I plan to run as damn close to B100 as I can all winter. It was a little cranky starting up this morning with temps in high 20's but its supposed to be up to 45F today so it will be fine parked outside at my office. I also keep a jar of fuel in my trunk so I can monitor whats going on. I have a timer in the garage that I can connect the tank heater pad to, in order to warm it up for an hour or so if I am going to drive it. If it was going to sit outside I would probably run B80 with kero. With the fuel tank in the trunk and insulated lines and fuel filter heater I would feel confidant doing so. |
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Just wanted to give an update on the local methanol prices for you South Central PA BD'ers. I just bought my first barrel for this season.
Veolia Environmental (DBA Allied Oil and Chemical Sales) 1530 Clugston Rd York, PA 17404 (717)767-5502 Methanol: 55 gallon drum $185.39 (incl tax) Price quoted was picked up at their location. I understand they also have KOH and NaOH. "mixing up a bunch of magic stuff" Al 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD - B100 2005 Ford F250 6.0 -B100 Kubota BX 2300 - B100 Lopi Republic 1250 - Glycerol/Sawdust Logs |
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Would be interested in a get together.Just let me know when. I think you may have been the one who helped me with my first batch.Thanks
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sishler,
Great to see you on the forum. Just an update, I purchased a 2000 Jetta TDI and have been using biodiesel in it. Getting ~48 MPG which is a great help now that I work near Hanover PA. I am planning on starting another batch Friday, keep us posted on your progress. Mr Bill  1982 300D TurboDiesel Mercedes Benz. 1996 F250 7.3L PowerStroke Diesel. 2000 Jetta TDI |
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Hi all,
If you recall last fall winter I began putting my appleseed processor together. It's all done! Now just have to buy the ethenol & NAoh. Where do I get that in the Mechanicsburg area?? I wouldn't mind some experience hands around when I mix the first batch. Thanks for the info, wish me luck Eagle Denny |
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Eagle- I get methanol from Clay's service station, W. Main St. downtown Mechanicsburg. I was pleasantly surprised to pay $2.50/gal a few weeks ago- it was $3.50 previously. Personally I buy KOH from AAA chemicals in Texas- google them. They ship fast via UPS. Not the cheapest way to go, but 2 lb containers are very convenient. I am close- let me know if you want to get together.
On a different note, I made my first batch of "mayonaise"- got an emulsion on my initial wash. I cleared the emulsion- bubble washed with brine and then washed like crazy. I have about 1/4 ml of oil at the bottm of my test tube after doing the 3/27 test. I need advice- do I run this stuff in my car or dump it (25 gallons) in my heating oil tank (I have about 200 gallons of kero). Steve |
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Steve,
You could probably blend that stuff with the kero and run it in your car. From what I recall you had an older VW right? I think it would probably be very tolerant of the off spec fuel for a short while. If you remember me, thanks for the tour of your setup at school a few years back. I'm well into my second season of brewing, and making nice clear beautiful smelling BD. I'm not water washing, so emulsions are not a concern. Demeth, settle, voila! I'm planning on putting in a wood chip filter to cut the settling time. "mixing up a bunch of magic stuff" Al 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD - B100 2005 Ford F250 6.0 -B100 Kubota BX 2300 - B100 Lopi Republic 1250 - Glycerol/Sawdust Logs |
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Hey Al, Thanks for the tip. Actually, I exagerated on the amount of oil- it's mech less than 1/4ml. I've never had any appreciable amount of unreacted oil before, so I don't know what's acceptable. I can certainly blend with some kero if necessary- what percentage? My old Golf doesn't seem to care what I dump in the tank- it always runs well. Also, no water wash? What procedure are you using? Also, also, wood chips: huh? Steve
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I use a B60 blend most of the winter, that's 60% biodiesel and 40% kerosine. The kerosine is a little more expensive than diesel, but has better cold weather properties. I'm sure you could go 50/50 or even higher. The lubricity of biodiesel more than makes up for the lack of it in kerosine. I have put a "plumbers delight" condensor on my processor and use it for both dewatering (pre-process)and then methanol recovery (post-process). By removing the excess methanol from the biodiesel the soap drops out of solution. I settle for about a week in a standpipe equipped tank and then run it through a heated drying tank and it's ready to go. The wood chips is just something new to experiment with. I think there is very little soap in my final product. I stock up for the winter, so the barrels sit for 6 months, and I have yet to see any soap at the bottom. I think by filtering through the wood chips I could cut my settling time considerably. Glad to hear the Golf is hanging in there. Let me know if you get down to the Columbia area. I'll be glad to show you my setup. After lots of trial and error I'm pretty happy with it.
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Al, School's out in a few weeks. I'll be down- the "plumber's delight" sounds interesting. I've been blending to make B50 with no problems (I put a dash of acetone in the mix to be sure). Thanks for the info. Steve
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