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HELLO TO ALL,

I just completed the following experiment.

In a large mason jar i added the following.

1000 ml of wvo titrated at 7 koh (dry oil)
100 ml of methanol alcohol
1 ml of Rooto sulfuric acid %????

I shook it all up real good and placed
in a big bucket of hot water from the tap
outside on the porch to roast.

i shook it up several time through out
the day just for fun.

a clear layer formed on top that looked
like biodiesel , maybe just alcohol
not sure. Confused

just titrated it at 4 KOH !!! Smile Smile Smile

I know for the old pros this seems like
nothing (big yawn) Roll Eyes

I had to retest it several times just
to make sure. 4 KOH everytime!!!

I then tested the thin layer on the top
and it tested about 7 KOH. pour this off
maybe?

anyway, i'm happy and know if a few
happy shakes and a hot water batch
can knock 3 points off....

well you know the rest

bye

back to my lab............

PAO II
 
Location: Searcy, Arkansas | Registered: October 28, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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yea to worked.. Big Grin

next time using slightly less acid..say 0.8ml
you might find the results are lower.

the stuff on top is
water/methanol/acid..the acid, of course is why to titrates higher..

if you have some bad oil. say 20KOH do the same test but more acid...20-3*0.2=3.4ml...this time you find the layer on the bottom not the top.
being able to drain in large batches is a must.

-dkenny


'84 bluebird school bus, DD8.2L turbo( 4/2011, the bus tranny has died..Frown 8.23.11 bus driven to scrap yard Frown )
2006 Jeep Liberty CRD Smile - the wife's
99 dodge 2500 5.9l 24v..-mine Smile
everything run B100 when its warm enough Smile
 
Location: RTP, North Carolina | Registered: December 15, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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HELLO DKENNY,

Oh believe me i have already found
your fomula. it's famous.

I even read some of your first
articles when you were just a pup
asking how to do the acid process.

I read a lot

thanks so much
think how far you have come

i'm trying to catch up

you should be able to hear
my diesel approaching soon!

sounds like 5 German hammers
on a small anvil 300D baby! Cool

bye

PAO II

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Location: Searcy, Arkansas | Registered: October 28, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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HEY DKENNY,

I forgot to ask.

Is the Rooto brand drain cleaner (professional)
ok? ie high enough purity (%)

i went to their web sight
and nothing is posted.

nothing on the bottle either Confused

PAO II
 
Location: Searcy, Arkansas | Registered: October 28, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Purity reported here:
http://www2.itap.purdue.edu/MSDS/docs/12070.pdf
is 93.2%

Brian
 
Registered: October 16, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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should be good enough.

-dkenny


'84 bluebird school bus, DD8.2L turbo( 4/2011, the bus tranny has died..Frown 8.23.11 bus driven to scrap yard Frown )
2006 Jeep Liberty CRD Smile - the wife's
99 dodge 2500 5.9l 24v..-mine Smile
everything run B100 when its warm enough Smile
 
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Hey BrianR,

thanks alot man
good work

thanks for the confirmation
dkenny

ya'll are really helpful


my next batch is going to be
a 50 liter acid base/base
with a glycerin pre-polish.

i'm going to use my main processor.

shooting for sunday night late
plus monday some and run on tuesday

thanks

any suggestions other than
the fomula that you listed.

maybe a little extra acid
since the purity is a little low?

bye

PAO II
 
Location: Searcy, Arkansas | Registered: October 28, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I wouldn't use any extra acid...its better use not enough than too much..

too much will the titration to go up!! and stay up..

not enough will leave the titration above 3. but this also depends what's initial titration..

-dkenny


'84 bluebird school bus, DD8.2L turbo( 4/2011, the bus tranny has died..Frown 8.23.11 bus driven to scrap yard Frown )
2006 Jeep Liberty CRD Smile - the wife's
99 dodge 2500 5.9l 24v..-mine Smile
everything run B100 when its warm enough Smile
 
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