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Hey,

I've just bought a 1986 Ford Escort Diesel. Before buying, I looked far and wide for a US Diesel Escort Drivers' Club, fanbase, or users-group -- to no avail. So I figured I'd better go ahead and set one up.

So, here goes! Feel free to contact me if you have any questions about Diesel Escorts. I hope to post info on my ownership saga on the following yaho discussion group. The following link takes you to the Yahoo DieselEscortOwners group.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DieselEscortOwners

Feel free to join the yahoo discussion group. I'm hopeful that the few of us diesel Escort owners out there will come together to help each other out. The more the merrier.

Thanks, and here's looking forward to hearing from other Diesel Escort owners.

Sincerely,

John
 
Location: Silk Hope, NC | Registered: June 12, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Long ago I purchsed a Mercury Lynx (84) with the engine you mentioned. It was a great car, with two problems. For some reason it ate alternator belts. The pully was properly aligned and I never did find out why. The second problem was more serious, involving the head gasket. It was recalled and I had to sell the car, before I flund out anything more about it. It got 50 miles to the gallon though.
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Hey,

I've just bought a 1986 Ford Escort Diesel. Before buying, I looked far and wide for a US Diesel Escort Drivers' Club, fanbase, or users-group -- to no avail. So I figured I'd better go ahead and set one up.

So, here goes! Feel free to contact me if you have any questions about Diesel Escorts. I hope to post info on my ownership saga on the following yaho discussion group. The following link takes you to the Yahoo DieselEscortOwners group.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DieselEscortOwners

Feel free to join the yahoo discussion group. I'm hopeful that the few of us diesel Escort owners out there will come together to help each other out. The more the merrier.

Thanks, and here's looking forward to hearing from other Diesel Escort owners.

Sincerely,

John
 
Location: Modesto CA | Registered: April 24, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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That's interesting Bill. Yeah, We've gathered more than 20 owners of this rare creation. Over the course of a month's discussion, it seems real clear that the cylinder heads on these engines (Mazda RF series) tend to warp or crack easily. Mainly because the engines are small and aluminum, I think. Also because some of them were made with bad cooling fan thermo-switches. Mine failed, but luckily we caught it quickly and prevented it from overheating.

Once again, if you know anyone with one of these rare birds in the backyard, or in a junkyard, please let them know about our group! The more the merrier!

Diesel Escort Owners Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DieselEscortOwners

Cheers!

John
 
Location: Silk Hope, NC | Registered: June 12, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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In addition to that negative note, I should have added some positive notes!

For example, did I mention these cars get 50 MPG?!

Also, they came out of the factory with neat features like
    by-pass motor oil filtration system
    motor oil cooling system
    water separation in the fuel filter
    fuel filter heater!


Gosh I love this car!

Check out my blog and help me name her.

http://tarheelbiodieseler.blogspot.com/

Thanks,

John
 
Location: Silk Hope, NC | Registered: June 12, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Being all this said about the items that the car was designed with(by-pass motor oil filtration system
motor oil cooling system
water separation in the fuel filter
fuel filter heater),
Shouldnt this be more useful when running WVO,more so in the colder months(Ohio)?
Kevin
 
Registered: September 11, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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While the heater in the fuel filter will help BD or WVO, the bypass filter is not a selling point. Full Flow filtration is far superior. Did I mention the 50mpg? D_ _ _ _ I wish I still had that car.
 
Location: Modesto CA | Registered: April 24, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post



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I'm going to look at one soon I already got a 6.9 with hypermax turbo
6.9
6.2 suburban
a 5cyl mercedes (non runner)
and a 4cycl izusu (2.2) bad tranny
yeah 50 plus that would mean I would only spend 5 a day to drive to work instead of $15
 
Registered: September 26, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have an 86 lynx, ordered a new fuel filter for it, naturaly they sent the wrong one.I'll have to wait a couple more days for another. The last owner put a new head on it. He said the only prob he had was that it would not start when it got down to around 40 F. unless he pulled it then it would start and would restart as long as he didn't let it cool down to far. we'll find out. did I mention that I could use 50 mpg.
 
Registered: July 04, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have located an 1986 Escort 2dr. hatchback. It is all there as far as I can tell. The seller tells me that he dragged it behind his motor home, but it has been sitting for a couple of years. Is it worth getting?

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Location: Sunny Florida | Registered: April 18, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Yes, if you can get it started and it runs ok after warm up. It will probably run rough and smoke a lot initially but that should smooth out. It could take awhile to start, don't burn out the starter if it doesn't start after 5 or 6 short tries. Short like 5-10 seconds. Pulling it around will probably get it started faster than working the starter. I am assuming that rust is not the major problem in Florida as it is in Minnesota. Good luck, Chris
 
Location: Minneapolis | Registered: November 19, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Dear Bearskidog,

I bought the Escort diesel today. Seems its an 84, not an 86. It lost its alternator belt on the way home, otherwise it is a pleasant driving car. While I was under the hood, I discovered a leak in the injector pump. The car came with lots of parts, including an injector pump, so I will swap it out and see what happens. This looks like the beginning of a long relationship.

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Location: Sunny Florida | Registered: April 18, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Glad to hear you bought it, and gladder to hear you got a bunch of parts as well. I assume the leak in the I pump is out of the top, throttle shaft bushing, that is pretty common. There is extensive info about that on the Escort owners site. I think it would be easier to put in a new o ring in the existing pump than to swap pumps. Also, if the engine is running well and just leaks fuel at this point, fix the leak, because you don't know if your other pump will work better or worse.If you go ahead with the swap, make sure you index the marks on the camshaft and I pump to maintain proper timing. Good luck and please keep us updated as to how it works out.
Chris
 
Location: Minneapolis | Registered: November 19, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post



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I have a 1986 Escort diesel.....let me tell you the story with this car....My grandfather bought it in 86....it got 48-54 mpg. Never had any problems except with the electric fan....which still doesn't work...He then gave it to my father in 1992 and the head gasket blew along with a new fuel pump assembly.....then in 1997 my father gave it to me......here is what i know about them.

One of the best diesels ever made.....first off with a diesel...you should expect new batteries and starters....just the way it is. other than that, this car has 258,000 miles on it....original everything, including antifreeze (except what was added when the head was replaced)alternator, water pump, etcetera. all original.....it doesn't leak anything.also,if you have ever changed the oil in one of these bad boys, it really needs the extra filter.....good old black oil!!! I love this car....yeah its not something to look at, but as for reliability i could never be happier.
its a rusted out heap now, not even drivable....but the engine still runs like new.....it has been sitting for years. Unfortunately i have to get rid of it, as it is useless to me now... If anyone has any questions about them, i more than likely have the answers...i also have all of the Ford shop manuals on the car. here are some tips:

1. DRAIN THE WATER FROM FILTER
2. NEVER RUN IT OUT OF FUEL
3. CHANGE ENGINE OIL EVERY 3,000 (or you will be sorry)
4. GOOD LUCK GETTING PARTS....You have to search everywhere, but you can find most of them...it took me 2 months last year to find a battery for it...The by-pass filter is changed every 15,000 i believe....only problem is that you can't buy them anymore Frown.....
Thats all i can think of for now.....


I love my 2.0 L diesel!!

P.S. It always starts reguardless of temp...we went down to 10 below this winter...and i went to start it for craps and giggles....i had to pump the pedal, but it fired right up....good ole black smoke Smile
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Registered: May 31, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Is this the same engine as the ford ranger pickup with the turbo? If it is, and you know of one for sale, please let me know. I'm looking for a SMALL diesel pickup for my son who just got a job and needs an economical means of transportation. Email me at dyoungen@lycos.com NO SPAM PLEASE!!
 
Location: Hawkinsville, Ga. 31036 | Registered: October 24, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Dear Chasb

NAPA handles the by pass and full flow oil filters. Sorry its no longer drivable, My 84 Escort has a good body but the cylinder head is bad. Are you anywhene near Florida, maybe we can make a deal.

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I have a 1986 Escort diesel.....let me tell you the story with this car....My grandfather bought it in 86....it got 48-54 mpg. Never had any problems except with the electric fan....which still doesn't work...He then gave it to my father in 1992 and the head gasket blew along with a new fuel pump assembly.....then in 1997 my father gave it to me......here is what i know about them.

One of the best diesels ever made.....first off with a diesel...you should expect new batteries and starters....just the way it is. other than that, this car has 258,000 miles on it....original everything, including antifreeze (except what was added when the head was replaced)alternator, water pump, etcetera. all original.....it doesn't leak anything.also,if you have ever changed the oil in one of these bad boys, it really needs the extra filter.....good old black oil!!! I love this car....yeah its not something to look at, but as for reliability i could never be happier.
its a rusted out heap now, not even drivable....but the engine still runs like new.....it has been sitting for years. Unfortunately i have to get rid of it, as it is useless to me now... If anyone has any questions about them, i more than likely have the answers...i also have all of the Ford shop manuals on the car. here are some tips:

1. DRAIN THE WATER FROM FILTER
2. NEVER RUN IT OUT OF FUEL
3. CHANGE ENGINE OIL EVERY 3,000 (or you will be sorry)
4. GOOD LUCK GETTING PARTS....You have to search everywhere, but you can find most of them...it took me 2 months last year to find a battery for it...The by-pass filter is changed every 15,000 i believe....only problem is that you can't buy them anymore Frown.....
Thats all i can think of for now.....


I love my 2.0 L diesel!!

P.S. It always starts reguardless of temp...we went down to 10 below this winter...and i went to start it for craps and giggles....i had to pump the pedal, but it fired right up....good ole black smoke Smile
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Location: Sunny Florida | Registered: April 18, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I live in Indianapolis, Indiana
The way i see it now, i am either going to find another escort in good shape (body wise) or junk it. Thats what sux about living in the North, road salt kills cars....especially the 1980s vehicles.
 
Registered: May 31, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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does anyone know how many diesels are still out there.....i am thinking this may be a VERY rare car...
 
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Does anyone know if this is the same engine in the Mazda 1981 pickup. I have a guy looking to sell his truck. Thanks.
 
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Probably a couple hundred of these vehicle left in the U.S. The Mazda engine in the Escort/Tempos and their Mercury twins are RF engines, labeled as such on their timing covers. I don't think it is the same engine as the pick ups, I believe they had a 2.2 liter. I don't remember that letter designation. All of this info is covered in past posts on the Diesel Escort owners site. If the engine and body are decent for the Mazda truck, you should grab it. That is also a rare and sought after vehicle.
Chris
 
Location: Minneapolis | Registered: November 19, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The designation is S2 and it is a 2209cc NA diesel for that truck. They also have an R2 diesel also they're both 2.2L but the R2 is just a lil bit underpowered size wise compared with the S2.
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Probably a couple hundred of these vehicle left in the U.S. The Mazda engine in the Escort/Tempos and their Mercury twins are RF engines, labeled as such on their timing covers. I don't think it is the same engine as the pick ups, I believe they had a 2.2 liter. I don't remember that letter designation. All of this info is covered in past posts on the Diesel Escort owners site. If the engine and body are decent for the Mazda truck, you should grab it. That is also a rare and sought after vehicle.
Chris
 
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