Well, we now have our own Dry Washing Biodiesel Section (YEAH!!! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!)

Here's a list of companies that I'm aware of where you can get dry wash material...

Please don't take these as an endorsement for any of these companies. I'm just compiling a list for us all & you should approach each of these as you would a new company that you've never heard of (in otherwords, grill them with questions & ask for testimonials).

If you know of others, by all means post it...

Magnesol
Fryer Power
- Offers Magnesol & Magnesol Filtering Systems
http://www.fryerpower.com/store/

Amberlite
Extreme Biodiesel
- Offers a dry wash system that used Amberlite
http://www.extremebiodiesel.com

Home Biodiesel Kits
- Offers a column that utilizes Amberlite
- Offers Amberlite itself but you have to buy their column to get it
http://homebiodieselkits.com/wawa.html


Puralite Systems
Biodiesel Experts International
- Offers a column and the puralite to go with it
- I've dealt with these guy's before & believe them to be reputable. Still, ask questions...
http://drywashbiodiesel.com/SmallProducers/tabid/139/Default.aspx

Florida Biodiesel Inc.
- Sells Puralite PD206
http://www.floridabiodieselinc.com/biodry.html

I've noticed that there's several other companies that are rebranding Puralite, Amberlite, & Lanxess & then selling them. As you speak to companies offering different technologies, be sure to ask them which one they sell.

As I hear of more out there I'll post them.

Again, check references & understand what you're buying before committing to anything.

I'm also toying with the idea of selling Puralite & Amberlite but nothing solid yet.

-Graydon

I love It Graydon: But for the prices of that one comerical ultrasonic system, from Florida.
I could buy 6 or 7 BIO-PRO's and still have money left over to send your baby to collage.

Yeah. That one's kind of spendy...
-Graydon

Well done, Graydon.

Can you "sticky" your two posts on this subject to keep them at the top of the list, at least for a few months?

http://www.purabio.com/contact.htm They have a pretty good powerpoint type slideshow.

Fabricator,
Thats a great company!
I second that one! Great guy's to deal with too.
-Graydon

The cost of the tower on the Drywash site has GOT to be exagerated.
There is no way that thing is worth 2,200$, unloading door or no.

The Dry Wash Biodiesel Tower is designed specifically for use in the biodiesel industry by a company that deals with industrial sized equipment. We took a long time and tested both filter housings and water softener bottles and came to the conclusion with Purolite that both are not right for this application and are entirely too small. We fabricated this design from raw materials so that it would be the perfect dimensions for a superb dry wash. We also have added in a 150 mesh stainless steel screen mounted and welded inside to hold the resin. After fabrication we powder coat it so that the paint will never peel or melt away as we all know biodiesel can do. To top it off the added stainless steel casing and internal pressure gauge with stainless steel ½” ball valves on top and bottom. At least 30 man hours of welding/metal fabrication, plus the man hours for powder coating that is done by professionals, plus assembly and testing goes into The Dry Wash Biodiesel Tower before it is complete. What you are getting is absolutely worth the money it is selling for plus it comes with 73lbs of resin free! You cannot find any other system like this in the market. The Tower is 6ft tall 12” dia with a foot print of 3’x3’. Check the sizes of the other systems you see and you will be amazed at how undersized they really are.

I am wondering what twin water purification tanks (42" inside height) will do ?
Purolite link:
1 - PD 206 resin

HERE IS WHAT WE OFFER BIODIESEL BREWERS

We Have the following Items at great Prices


* CENTRIFUGES - Clean Oil and Biodiesel BEST PROCESSS
* PUROLITE - Clean and Purify
* DRY WASH - No More water washing
* STRAINERS - 55 gal and 5 gal
* FILTERS
* SODIUM HYDROXIDE
* POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE
* PROCESSORS



800-517-4707

biodieewl Barn Biodiesel Barn


WE HAVE DRY WASH SYSTEMS [COLOR:RED]WE HAVE DRY WASH SYSTEMS

For people wondering what it cost to build an ion exchange resin column here you go...

A recent customer of ours couldn't believe how inexpensive our columns are after we broke it down for him.

He decided to buy one (regardless of being capable of making one himself) and after receiving it, he highly recommended we make a post on the forum sharing the same break down of the cost involved for everyone to see - so here it is:

1) Column comes with 20 lbs of resin .......$160
2) All steel cone bottom ................... $25
3) 2 - malleable metal 1/2 couplings......... $3
4) 1/4" steel column top lid (w/7 cutholes)..$30
5) Silicon Rubber (bio compatible) gasket....$22
6) 2 - Flange rings .........................$10
7) Resin support grid wafer .................$37
8) 48" Steel Column Body (tube)..............$50
9) Stand Steel ..............................$20
10) Bolt,nuts, washer hardware................$3
Subtotal for materials $360

Now additionally there is at least 1.5 hours of welding time.
At an average cost of $60/hr this is another $90
New total cost $450.00
And then we powder coat the column (not paint it since Biodiesel
will eat up nearly any paint job) $50 min.
New total cost $500.00

All this doesn't include any shipping cost incurred for several
of these items you'll need to order from McMaster Carr or the like.

It also doesn't include your time and fuel cost involved to go get parts and equipment as well as other needed assembly labor - grinding metal, cutting out gaskets, etc...

And finally, when you receive the column it comes with a comprehensive users manual to ensure the smooth operation over the life of the column which benefits from all our past trials and errors. We believe this is probably the most valuable item of all...

We originally offered the columns at $489.00 but due to increases in resin cost the price went to $549.00.

What do you all think?

GCG

I would recommend stainless steel for this application, considering the acidity of the resin, the biodiesel, methanol, caustic soda and so on.

I'm not sure the landed cost of our 304L Polarix tubes is competitive in the US, but here's the web page: http://www.biodys.com/polarix.php

A question I have is for GCG. Can your small ion tower use the eco2pure in place of the resin beads?

Also what about using the following to fine filter the bd after it would pass through the eco or resin: Cim-Tek Biodiesel Bio-Tek High Alcohol Filter (E85, M85, B100)

Scarecrow, looks like a decent filter but at 1 micron how many gals would it be good for? Maybe a 1 micron bag filter ( that you can wash) would be better, or at least be more cost effective, about $4 a piece and 7" x 16"(or so).
On ebay I've seen "lot of 5 " for 15.99

Thanks for the info 11western. I will be starting to collect parts to build a processor. So some time over the winter or spring the building will being. And I want to dry wash so I use no water. The more info the better. They also carry the following in 2 and 10 micron:Cim-Tek Bio-Tek Microglass Filter - Particulate Filter

these systems seem ok for large producers, how would i modify them for small 30-40 gal batches in my garage. culligan has out dated stock water softeners that i was going to use. is this now a bad idea??

scarecrow ; by the same token, can't wash them,
I just ordered 5 bag filters for 25$$ or so at 1 micron. The only way to get it better then that is a centrifuge ( costly ) and you still have to filter to least 25 microns, lots of info out there,been lookinjg at this for awhile now and have only completed 7/40gal batches.

Drew: I'm no expert but I got my processor design from " PrettyGoodBioDiesel.com" and a 40gal( using a 55gal drum) cost under $500 with book. Not an advocate but it works for me.
As far as filters go try the "whole house filter " at home depot from GE smart filter about 40$$ and filters from 5-15 microns.

You said "water softeners" so I assume you have hard water, try a pre-filter or salt or something...don't have much knowledge of that.
I have reasonably hard water here in the desert and have no problems with that, but this is a learning experience.

MOST IMPORTANTLY
Have fun...pm if I can help any other way.

quote:

Originally posted by Scarecrow:
A question I have is for GCG. Can your small ion tower use the eco2pure in place of the resin beads?

Also what about using the following to fine filter the bd after it would pass through the eco or resin: Cim-Tek Biodiesel Bio-Tek High Alcohol Filter (E85, M85, B100)

Scare,

You think just like us. These are the exact filter we use for pre and post filtering on our small resin column systems. We use a 10 micron on the pre and a 1 or 2 micron on the post for biodiesel.

Now for the Eco2pure I wouldn't recommend that 2 or 10 micron as the post filter initially, because your going to have a lots of small "finds" come out. We have tested the Eco2Pure using our 80 mesh screen and there will be a good deal of powder that comes through at first - we would use a simple bag filter until you see it isn't getting real dirty anymore.

Note the Eco2Pure unlike the resin, is not of a uniform particle size!!!

As to using our columns with the Eco2Pure - yes you can but we would anticipate complaints due to the Eco2Pure solidifying in the column and then being very difficult to get out.

Other equipment providers say that by simply hooking up an air compressor to the discharge (bottom end) port you can simply blow the stuff out... ... We aren't convinced yet that it will go this simply but this test is coming soon.

We have a slightly modified design for the smaller columns which allows the user to open both ends of the column and then just push out the used up eco2pure.

If your interested in one of these modified units please PM me.

GCG

Another company offering a Purolite system is Houston Biodiesel. My impression is that their systems are best for evaluation testing. They have plans and screens for SMALL inexpensive PVC towers that hold one or two pounds of purolite.

So if you want to check out drywash without spending hundreds of dollars, the Houston Biodiesel system is a place to good start. Then if you like drywash and want something faster than a half a gallon an hour, check out the guys above with the more robust full size steel towers. They look like they have some good deals on full size towers.

Of course, PVC columns are allegedly taboo for filtering BD with resin. I have heard that there is some kind of chemical reaction that takes place and causes fissures in the PVC.

I have been using two small PVC columns for about six months with no problems. I guess only time will tell.