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I don't dry wash, so you can take my comments with a big grain of salt. My understanding is that the key is dwell time. It sounds like you are recirculating at a pretty fast rate, pumping the fuel through the chips multiple times. Most people seem to get better results by moving the fuel very slowly, passing it through the chips (or media) just once or twice. I have also heard that once the chips become saturated with soap, they will actually release it back into the fuel -- there is a limited lifespan to the media before you need to replace or regenerate whatever you're using. I just wonder if those factors are having more of an effect than temperature. I don't recall ever reading anything about temp effects on dry washing. Cheers, John | |||
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Hi Biopac, After demething...my bio sits in a cone bottom tank for at least a week to allow the bulk of soaps to naturally drop out...and to minimize all this excess soap saturating your dry wash media... | |||
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My dry washing isn't with wood chips, but with the KOH soap there is a temperature effect on my filter bags. The KOH soap is a jelly, so the warmer it is, the thinner the jelly and the more that the bags miss. I try to keep my fuel during soap filtered between 60-75F, warm enough for the fuel to move through the filter bags but not so warm to allow the soap to thin out and move through, too. When I was brewing in small garden shed, I had left the final bag hanging over the empty cone tank and had the shed get so hot in the July sun that the soap flowed out of the bag and collected in the cone bottom. Not a lot, but a cup's worth. | |||
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Further to what the others have said, yes, the colder the better, the colder the fuel the less soap it can have in solution. Also upflow is the way to go, the soap all settles to the bottom of the chips so by using downflow you are reducing the effectiveness and longevity of the chips by a large margin. Particularly if you are feeding out the bottom of a cone, that will guarantee the soap will be coming out with the fuel as it accumulates. The other large factor is methanol content, it takes very little methanol to trap a lot of soap in the fuel, you may try bubbling dry air through the fuel overnight before sending it through the chips. Cheers, Jon ___________________________ Simple schematic for a pump and heater control with a high limit Sensor for the biodiesel/glycerin layer | |||
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Thanks for the feedback. I forgot to mention that sometimes I start dry washing with the bio still quite warm from the whole batch demeth. (120*F) So maybe that's my problem. I will let it cool off and then run the process after letting it cool. ....I usually use the fuel as fast as I make since I drive a lot! so I'm hoping to dry wash it as quick as possible. Driving an 05 liberty CRD and an 01 Excursion 7.3 and the nearest gas station is 20 miles from where I live. | |||
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Yes. As mentioned, Dry wash is temp sensitive. I now let the Bio cool down, then send it through the tank "down flow" style and it comes out testing 0 ppm from my untreated batch of sawdust chips. So, glad it's working better. | |||
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Biopac: Just a thought as I looked at your post. Since you demeth and spend the energy dollars to heat it, IMO after demeth it would be worthwhile to bubble and circulate the batch if you can. Just a bit of insurance to drive of the residual methanol while in the cooling process. We then let it settle for a couple of days before it hits the chips. Glad to hear 0 PPM,, the trick now is how long will it stay there before you need a re-fresh. Good Luck regards Tom 1999 K3500 Dually with a new AMG 6.5TD turned up a bit by John Kennedy Chevy DMax Totaled thanks to a 20 year old in a Mustang Mercedes 300CDT John Deere On B99.? | |||
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