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I have used NaOH for the first time with 130L of used Soybean Oil and 20% methanol using the 80/20 technique. After adding the first 80% methoxide, I mixed for 60 minutes and drained the glycerol, then added the next 20% and again drained the glycerol after 60 minutes. In total, I pulled out approximately 7 gallons of glycerol in two different buckets.

After cooling, the Glycerol has 'hardened' ok lets say jellied into a firm jello like substance. As a matter of fact, it has clogged up the drain pipes in the processor where the bio settled. (more on this in another post)

My questions:

1) Does this Glycerol contain any methanol in it or did it all go into the bio?
2) If not, how much methanol is left in the glycerol - at least as a percentage?


I was under the impression that Glycerol with Meth in it would normally stay a little liquid or is that what is keeping it jelly? Meaning otherwise it would be rock solid.

3) One last question. If I demeth the bio and glycerin together at lets say 150F (under vacuum), at what temp does the demeth glycerin start to really harden?

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Doug
 
Location: Los Angeles | Registered: 25 March 2008Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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the majority of the excess methanol ends up in the glyc, but even with methanol in it can go jelly if it gets cold enough. approx 1/5 - 1/4 of it will be methanol, when it's demethed my glyc sets hard even in warm weather.


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What is cold enough? I live in Southern California and I bet when this happened, it didn't go lower than 65. Probably closer to 75 as we had a heat wave last week.

Also what is a good way to make it liquid so I can at least pour it out and deal with it?


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doug, add water towards atend of your recovery while its still hot and that will help keep everything liquid.
 
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