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and rolled once(previous owner) but still as strong as ever 
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Me too. 2006 diesel truck with 10,000 miles on it and over $4,000 damage. Recommend you file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau of Acadiana, 4007 West Congress Street, Suite B, Lafayette, LA 70506 Attention: Margaret Ansley, Operations Manager. email: Margaret@bbb.tzo.com phone: 337-981-3497 fax: 337-981-7559
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These DSE failures seem to be on (U.S.-built) trucks - would the same be true of IDI MB's?
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IDI MB diesels seem to be tough old beasts, and from what I've gleaned over on the SVO and Blending sides of things are probably the most suitable engines for blending operation. But I believe the general consensus is that the DSE additive is unnecessary and an expensive "it can't hurt" additive, and I believe there were comments that its contents may also make your emissions on VO blends worse. Personally, in my own opinion from my own experience and conversations with others, I wouldn't recommend blending in any kind of diesel. To me, it's just not worth the potential problems when Biodiesel is much more "advanced" and better known. Not to mention that blending means you are still constantly using a fair percentage of petroleum derived products... --There is no Magic Bullet.-- If bigger is safer, buses are safest. Save yourself, use Transit. |
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I ran my 1985 Benz on the DSE for about 1000 miles. Then I ran it on the blend recommended by DSE WITHOUT the DSE additive for 25,000 miles. No difference. If you want to blend, and you're willing to risk your engine (blending IS a risk), don't waste your money on the additive. Just mix and enjoy. I have blended WVO with gasoline, kerosene, diesel, ethanol, and jet fuel, and several of the ingredients combined in various amounts.
I settled on a simple 80-90% WVO, 10-20% kerosene with Power service Diesel Kleen additive every other 50 gallon batch. 1985 Mercedes 300D, sold, Heat exchanger and injector line heaters, all single tank. 1997 E300D Benz using 50% diesel, 50% VO single tank |
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Great reading. I guess you all answered my concerns with Diesel Secret. I will be picking your brains soon. By the way, with as many complaints I've read about (Diesel secret), there should be more than one complaint on the BBB site.
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Don't stop talking about diesel secret. The only reason I found this forum was a search for diesel secret. Thanks to you guys I will not be destroying my cummins because of my ignorance. Thanks again.
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I ordered this product and have been running it for about 8 months in my 2003 6.0 Powerstroke. I chose to go this route instead of paying $1600 for a conversion kit for WVO. I can say it works really well. I can make a full tank of fuel from scratch in less than 5 minutes. I don't know the people who make this, I don't sell it, I don't care if you buy it, I only know it works. If your not actually using it then shut up with your ignorant theories until you can actually prove me wrong. I can't speak for every diesel engine but I know a 6.0 PSD is about the most difficult to convert to WVO and it turns out I don't need to now anyway. The additive they sell makes 240 gallons of fuel for the $13 so I can make a lot of fuel for what a conversion would cost me and I have NO modifications to my truck. My total fuel cost is about $0.55 per gallon with current additive prices.I can mix it with any ratio of diesel whenever I want to. I burn partially hydrogenated oil too but I run it through a kitchen strainer first. It also doesn't eat up hoses like biodiesel. I've noticed the power is similar to diesel and fuel economy seams to be somewhat less. I tried to "outsmart" their system by adjusting the mixture and my truck didn't run as well. This is my honest testimony about diesel secret and I am an actual user unlike many of you other armchair "experts".
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You are really gutsy, that's all I can say. How much would it cost you for a new engine, do you think? Generally, you can run 50% veggie, 50% diesel for quite a while. Usually the problems start when it gets cold, you get a little clog in your injector making it spray funny, you lose a glowplug or two, and then issues crop up. Bad spray pattern, WVO against the cylinder wall, coked rings, goodbye. I have run 85% WVO, 10% kero, 5% gas in my Mercedes for almost 2 years. I started with DSE, which is the same mix above but with their "secret ingredient" for 5,000 miles. Then I used it WITHOUT the DSE stuff for the next 25,000 miles. No difference. If it works, it will work WITHOUT the DSE. Tell you what. Call or email the DSE guys and tell them you just trashed your engine, and the mechanic says it's due to running cold blends of WVO. See if they are willing to buy you a new engine. It's up to you, and I really hope it DOES work long term, but I wouldn't bet my $5000 engine. When you have 60,000+ on that engine with DSE, I will believe. Long term mileage doesn't lie.
1985 Mercedes 300D, sold, Heat exchanger and injector line heaters, all single tank. 1997 E300D Benz using 50% diesel, 50% VO single tank |
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Welcome to the forum.
Most of the complaints here about DSE center around it being no different than what the guys over in the solvent thinning section do. They just don't buy the "secret ingredient." The secret ingredient being: "DSE additive Material Safety Data Sheet General Synonyms: dimethylbenzene, xylol Molecular formula: C6H4(CH3)2 This is a mixture of the three xylenes, m-xylene (CAS 108-38-3), o-xylene (CAS 95-47-6) and p-xylene (CAS 106-42-3), and often also contains ethyl bezene (CAS 100-41-4)." Save some money. It goes for $21 a GALLON at most stores. http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_pr...e=Sterling+--+Xylol+ Some people also add some pure gum turpentine. It is about $5.50 a quart. http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_pr...urpentine+-+Pure+Gum Please keep us updated on how things work out. -Jim www dot FryerPower dot com 1987 300DT (The sedan, not the wagon.) Some modifications to the fuel system. 1995 S350D Unmodified fuel system. I plead the 5th. |
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boy oh boy ...
The "believers" just don't stop do they.! If there is one thing I have seen here after reading all 4 pages..is that the most adamant bunch of supporters of the Diesel Secret each have only 1-2 posts per member. Tilly figures they are DSE emplyees..I wouldn't bet against it at all.!! Makes me laugh you know. I too am a neub and still mostly reading and slowly collecting the good info. There is simply a ton of it here. What do these clowns think they are trying to achieve..?? Rgds, stk |
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He is Certainly a Feisty fellow
I have noticed over the years that when a brand new member to a forum starts out a glowing report of the Wonders of Diesel Secret by saying something like, "I don't know the people who make this, I don't sell it, I don't care if you buy it, I only know it works." What they actually meant to say is that they are selling Diesel Secret for a living. |
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Look closely at his handle.
jsickau ... just sick of you  of course it could mean something else. 
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"Who was John Galt?"
Ann Rand, great author |
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Hello all. I'm new to the biodiesel forum.I recently bought an 05 Passat TDI wagon to cut back on fuel costs and discovered the different ways to fuel my car. I'm still trying to sort out which way is best for my situation and I tend to lean toward the methanol and KOH as the most reliable for the engine but also more time consuming. When I bought the car in NC a couple of months the previous owner had me call his friend that has a diesel Mercedes and started using the Diesel Secret. He later figured out what was in the blend (MSDS sheets)and came up with his own formula.I talked to the guy who has no interest in Diesel Secret and he has been running it in the MB for about 1 1/2 years with no problems. Of course I didn't ask him how many miles that represented.I'm not going to put anything in my tank until I've talked to more people and am comfortable with the best way to proceed. I've jumped into these kinda things in the past.....not this time.
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Jhuntsman,
Just save yourself a lot of trouble, time and money by staying away from Diesel Secret. Stick with biodiesel which has decades of research poured into by scholastic, commercial and governmental agencies. Illegitimi Non Carborundum |
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Ive got a question about this great product called DSE.
Wy do people keep answering these fake posters the longer you keep the thread going the more free advertising they get and the more engines they blow up. And to all the guys using DSE try Bio diesel its better! |
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Hello everyone, again... No im not a scam or insider, just a normal user of DSE wvo. I now have been running it two full years in 4 dodge pickups. One has 210,000 miles another has over 400,000 miles on it, no injector or pump problems. We have mixed over 3,000 gallons of WVO. It does work, we are not freaks but actual users. Check out www.turbodieselregister.com and look under alternative fuels. There are only several hundred trucks running on this stuff. I will send pics of trucks and mileages to prove the stuff works. No i don't make any money from DSE or could care less if they go out of business, i have their recipe now and know it works...thanks
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People mix 5% RUG with veg oil and say it "works" in that the vehicle still goes. That does not mean it is good for the engine.
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Hello fourwheel1
EVERYONE on this forum has their formula. It is called SVO and many people use SVO everyday to run their cars with. If you feel better putting a high cost magical ingredient in your SVO that does nothing other than remove money from your wallet I am sure that is fine with everyone too. |
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