I can't mention a name here and thus stir a hornet's nest butttttttttttttttt!!!! For the rendering company who stole my barrel from East Bernard, Texas. That was a low down dirty thieving act and I have a plan. A legal plan of taking each and everyone of your collection sites. I normally don't pay for oil but when I see your collection barrel behind a restaurant I am going to offer them twice the going rate of oil. I know now your not paying for the oil so here I come. I got one yesterday and guess what, I will get one today and tomorrow. Your gong to pay for that barrel one way or the other. I won't resort to your thievin ways but your going to feel it.

It was funny because when I walked in and told the lady I wanted the oil she said she would have to get with the owner. When I turned the card over and said here is what I pay she crab crawled and said she was the owner and I could have the oil. She grabbed her husband and said take him ouot back and show him where to get the oil. When I came back in she was on the telephone with your thieving company telling you to come get your barrel. Yeehoooo this is going to be some fun. Thank you for pissin me off so bad and getting me in gear Mr. no name rendering company.

Classic!! Good Job!

Things are getting ugly all over from the sound of some of the threads I read.Here in Missery
I had a company take my account by offering free grease trap cleaning.There mistake was taking my 300 gal. container.When I told them that I would be pressing charges for theft over $500.00 it came back fast.My containers have plastic lids and will soon change to metal to lock them down.Go get em wal1809.

It seems we have to get ugly right back at em!!! the only problem is our hands are tied by legalities and our raisin just won't allow us to break the legalities. Well there are more ways of pluckin a chickin than just pullin the feathers out.

I am in from the barn making a couple more colection barrels. I am going to post the pics because I found a pretty kewl way of making a bear claw for a big heavy chain. That way I can chain the barrels in the alleys. Pay attention thieves, your actually going to have to WORK to get my oil from now on.

I agree that everyone should keep it legal and take the high road, and I applaud wal1809 for taking on what sounds like a very unethical business!

This is one of the reasons I've been looking for a Utah Biodiesel supply, B100 supply, or another biodiesel specific retailer that sells bumper/barrel stickers with a personalized message like a contact phone number and/or name. This may aid in preventing theft or help a newly opening restaraunt find a collection company to contact.

-Dave-

You get 'em wal1809....Look out renderers here comes trouble knocking at your door...

nitroman

ditto, I am way ahead of ya I have griffin trying to take my accounts. and one supposed friend that stabbed me in the back by trying to steal a couple of my accounts. I am paying 25 cents for oil . as for that supposed friend. there is enough oil to go around here and I do share some accounts with others here in the new orleans area. it seems that high gas and diesel prices bring out the greed in some people ..


Ron

Sorry, not me, I have been battling big grease for several months now, the last event was me blocking a drive way while a big grease employee unloaded two of my barrels back where he got them.
The employee then walked up to my truck and related that most of their guys carry baseball bats in the trucks, I simply asked if they were as good as kevlar at stopping high speed copper jacketed projectiles.
He got in his big truck and left, havent had any further dealings with big grease lately, you fight fire with fire not groveling and civility.

First off I do not currently have a problem with Big Grease (Griffin in my area). But, I expect to in the not so distant future. I have a collection drum behind a local restaurant. It is placed beside their collection bin. Now for the good news, I am a local law enforcement officer and work 6 pm to 6 am, so I am able to keep an eye on it when they come to collect. If they attempt to touch my stuff I will of course give them a verbal warning first. Then if they get caught doing it again someone is going to have to bail the driver out of jail and pay the wrecker bill for their truck. I hope that it does not come to this but if it does I'll post the video for all of you to enjoy.

If you're thinking of going through the court system to fight "big grease" good luck. Justice serves those that serve themselves.

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Originally posted by stacyl14:
First off I do not currently have a problem with Big Grease (Griffin in my area). But, I expect to in the not so distant future. I have a collection drum behind a local restaurant. It is placed beside their collection bin. Now for the good news, I am a local law enforcement officer and work 6 pm to 6 am, so I am able to keep an eye on it when they come to collect. If they attempt to touch my stuff I will of course give them a verbal warning first. Then if they get caught doing it again someone is going to have to bail the driver out of jail and pay the wrecker bill for their truck. I hope that it does not come to this but if it does I'll post the video for all of you to enjoy.

Don't ya just love this forum ? So many interesting people from so many walks of life.

Why is it necessary to let people caught in the act of willful theft off with a warning ? Would they get a warning if they were holding up a bank ? They know they are stealing and it is premeditated theft at that, not a crime of opportunity.

I am of the opinon that once it gets in front of the judge that all the renderer will get is a subdued laugh at their misfortune of having gotten caught red-handed stealing from a cop who's property they were in the process of stealing.

A little like the guy who walks into an after hours pub frequented by law enforcement officers and pulls out a gun and shouts "this is a stick up". It's almost too funny.

If I were to catch him before he gets my drum loaded I would give him a warning. If he has already loaded it, its off to jail. And it would not be the renderer on the hook it would be the driver. If a driver gets arrested for taking someone else's drum of oil the word will get around. The driver's would be less likely to pick up another one that does not belong to his company. The only thing the renderer would end up paying for would be the wrecker bill. Believe me I am not naive enough to think that I can do anything to the renderer. What I can do is make a lasting impression on their driver's.

Chalk one up for the good guys. By carting the driver off to the calaboose, the truck gets hauled off to the impound and is therefore out of service.It's a win win; not only do the drivers get the point but he renderer does too, now that his equipment is out of commision and unable to secure revenue for him/her/them.

Book 'em Dano !

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Originally posted by fabricator:
you fight fire with fire not groveling and civility.

It's good to know there is at least one person here with some balls.

Everyone here I know that has a drum somewhere has had it knocked off by a collector at least several times. Those that have rung them and tried to resolve the problem in a mature and adult way have been laughed at and usually threatened. Amazing that an industry is so rotten to the core world wide.

I have no idea why people want to take such a high moral approach with those that have repeatedly demonstrated have none whatsoever. If they get some satisfaction out of that, great I suppose. Can't see it stopping them getting screwed over again and again but if thats what they are prepared to take....

These renderers are threatening others because they get caught stealing someone elses oil and they want to take to the people they are stealing from with baseball bats???

What is worse, the typical attitude conveyed on veg forums is " Well just because they do the wrong thing, we aren't going to stoop to that level"
YA.... good luck! Thats going to get you a real long way.
I suppose If another country invaded one of your territories and threatened the US if they tried to take it back, your Government is just going to sit round the negotiation table without taking any military action??
PFFFFT!!! C'mon people!
Where the hell are you coming up with all this " Holier than thou" high morals BS stuff from?

People are virtually admitting they know legal action is pointless so are the people getting robbed going to keep bending over and letting the renderer's screw them over or do you think the alternative resolution failing all others might be a better idea?
I really hope what is said really isn't what people believe and do in this regard.

The bottom line is, these companies will keep doing what they are doing while ever the people they are doing the wrong thing to, let them, and that is exactly what most of aggrieved people are doing!

What would satisfy me is to take Fabricators approach which is what I will do when it inevitably comes to that.

Congrats to you Wal on taking these mongrels head on. You are going to hurt them where it counts and make them think twice. I hope you are the biggest thorn in their sides they have ever experienced! Don't forget to report any infractions you see them committing to your EPA, IRS or whoever will also give them a hard time.

I read here all the time about people bleating they have lost suppliers or have had the companies steal their oil and while there is a lot of lip service paid to remedy's, I very much doubt if anyone does anything about it. Good to see someone is and the smart people will follow your lead and do something themselves.
It will only be when people like yourself make it hard for these cowboys that they will pull their heads in and smarten up to themselves. We have all the advantages, its about time we used them.

I know it's not my concern but the attitudes that are put forward here have a nasty habit of filtering down to local veggers who adopt the same limp wristed and victim like attitudes. Thankfully, not everyone falls for it and I guess when your a few steps back you can see the bigger picture and what works and what dosen't.
I think if anyone here got threatened with a baseball bat, inside a week there wouldn't be a drum within 10 miles that didn't have a .22 hole in the bottom of it!

One thing mentioned earlier that raises a question in my mind....
Why do the drivers there take other drums or oil from them?
Are they paid by the amount of oil they collect or is some pressure brought to bear on them by the companies? The idea of working on the drivers not the companies seems a good one but if the drivers are making money from it, I think a lot will still take the risk unless the risk becomes too great.

A friend of mine talked to a driver of a local collection company and he was secretly happy for people to take the oil because he was paid a weekly wage and less time spent collecting drums meant extra time on his lunch break or getting to go home earlier.

Wonder why the drivers there aren't just as complacent?

I can understand some people don't want to get in a ruckus over oil. My problem is I have to be careful, very careful. Just like the officer who said he would give a warning, his hands are tied just as mine are. I am sure he is giving a warning first because because of all the BS that follows. Whether you tend to believe it or not officers are not going to get a fare shake. If anything goes wrong with his dealing with the renderer who was stealing, in the eyes of the media the officer will be wrong. Doesn't matter if he is 100% right in how he acts. Perception is all that matters in a case as such. I know of many an officer who was found guilty of conduct unbecoming (one of those we are going to take the liability off of the city policies). I too have had that BS slapped on me and fortunate enough my career was able to survive through it.

Now if someone were to threaten me with a bat that is different. It is no longer a conflict over oil it is about a death threat. Two totally different things. Will the media portray that, heck no it will be headlined "Man was beat during conflict of oil". Doing the right thing doesn't get people watching the news.

I might be paying out the nose for that oil source but it feels good. BTW I got another one yesterday. Thank you again mister unknamed renderer.

I imagine a wrecker bill for a grease truck would be very high $$$. It may be enough to have the renderer to stop instructing their drivers to take drums.
It is funny to me how most renderer's containers have these large warning signs about theft and prosecution blah, blah, blah, but it is okay for them to steal your drums? Truly a double standard. BTW the Griffin truck I have been seeing is just a vaccuum truck, nowhere to load a drum or container.

I should clairify a little, I did contact the renderer at first, tried to take the high road and all that rot, it got me laughed at and insulted, then one of my restaurants called and said they could not get the renderer to remove his rusty eyesore septic hopper, he asked if I would haul it away, so I did, right to the scrap yard, and gave the scrap money to the restaurant owner, he was very tickled to say the least, since then I picked up his brothers restaurant and a brother in laws restaurant, both had hoppers from the same renderer, but when called they removed their filthy hoppers post haste.

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Originally posted by fabricator:
I did contact the renderer at first, tried to take the high road and all that rot, it got me laughed at and insulted,

This seems to be the universal response to trying to do the right thing to sort the problem out, even with companies on the other side of the pacific!

If these people want to act like a bunch of lawless morons, then I guess that is the way they have to be treated.

I have a collectr tat regularly steals from my drum. It dosen't worry me because I know when they came and I remove what I want and replace it with all the glycerin, UMO and anything else I want to get rid of that they can suck up. If people know when these guys are coming, maybe they could add a little something extra for them as well.

Now, What would fit in a 200L barrel and ruin everything in a whole tanker load of Oil???

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Originally posted by DCS:
Now, What would fit in a 200L barrel and ruin everything in a whole tanker load of Oil???

A whole lot of lye water perhaps?