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This companies new Technology has earned Whitehouse and EU interest.
www.ussec.us This companies profile, global potential and explosive growth is very interesting. Not Biodiesel or Ethanol, but positive features of both. They will be rapidly expanding facilties in the U.S., then Worldwide. This past Tuesday in Vidalia, Louisiana, there will was an excellent media opportunity and it seems like "Big oil" wants it kept under wraps. The following is some information on USSEC's revolutionary new Biofuel and World changing technology. All the press releases can also be accessed on the USSEC website. This Biofuel Company, U.S. Sustainable Energy Corp(USSEC) is in the process of revolutionizing the Fuel and Energy Industries. Biodiesel / alternative fuel facilities usually have a meager yield of about 1.5 Gallons of fuel produced from 3 Bushels of soybeans(feedstock), USSEC produces 5 Gallons of fuel from 1 Bushel. In addition to the superior yield, the Fuel Grade is much better, with such outstanding Qualities, that it can run in Gasoline, Diesel, or Jet Engines! Their proprietary system also produces no unusable waste or harmful byproducts. To the contrary, the primary product yielded is excellent carbon based fertilizer, with vastly superior liquid Biofuel and a clean burning natural gas with 1,908 BTU rating as the "recycled byproducts". This ensures that all power and products generated utilizing USSEC Biofuel are certified "Green". The fuel, liquid and gaseous, burns cleaner, more efficiently, and maintains cooler engine temperature for a longer running life. The first Fuel Plant is being built in Natchez, MS and the Green Power Plant which will run totally off this new Biofuel is locating across the Mississippi River in Vidalia, LA. One of many silver bullets for the Big Oil and Power Sector is the fact that USSEC's production cost is less than 50 cents a gallon and can use waste biomass(not just soybeans). The 25% of farm produce that goes bad in silos and on farms in the U.S. could almost eliminate Foreign Oil Dependency with these Fuel Plants strategically placed around the United States. Concordia Parish is taking proactive steps in moving towards the 100% Green Energy that USSEC can produce and Louisiana could become the first 100% Green Power State. There are offers coming in from both Big Oil and EU Countries (including offers of substantial EU Grant Money). The owner, Mr. John Rivera, stated he was an American and wanted to see his Country on the right path first. He feels that if an offer was accepted from the Oil Industry you would never see this fuel on the market. Word of the Process efficiency and superior fuel produced has reached Washington. A high rank USDA official came to Natchez, Mississippi to view the operations on October 31. At the Louisiana event, the City Hall of Vidalia was powered exclusively using USSEC's Biofuel. The Vidalia Power Plant will be the largest Green Power Utility in the world. It's difficult to fully express the potential of this company's technology and products. This is truly World Changing in regard to the environment, transportation, energy production and economic impact. It's definitely not your run of the mill company either. Aside from being environment friendly, USSEC has a Society Impact Mission, this ensures 10% of earnings flows back into the local, national, and worldwide philanthropic efforts. They believe in clean air, healthy children and a better quality of life. I would be pleased to speak at length anyone about USSEC, the Biofuel products, or the Press Conference. Please contact me for any additional information or go to the website. The CEO, John Rivera, stated he can be available for a Q & A sessions as well. Best Regards, Paul shadeauxwolf1@aol.com Fax(225)570-4444 |
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I am in total agreemeent that 2009 is very aggresive, fanciful and unrealistic. The technology exists, but we all know that Big Oil and the Global Economy will never allow total Energy Independance. Global change, however; is facilitated by big dreams and grand vision. This company will end up making a tremendous impact. Along with numerous other Green Power sources. We, as a World, stand upon the threshold of either expediting our own demise or reducing our negative environmental impact. The latter ensures our long term survival and improved quality of life.
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is this tech anything like the plants turning turkey and trash into usable fuel oil products?
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I'm sure they share some similarities, but the USSEC process yields a high grade biofuel from just about any biomass feedstock. That resulting fuel, 2 grades, can be burned in Diesel, Gas, or Jet engines. The fuels burn cleaner and the engines run cooler. Very interesting characteristics too, such as natural Lubricity and very low Cloud Point.
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Actually this is a valid fuel. There is a company right here in Vancouver B.C. Canada that has developed a method of transforming biomass into liquid fuel very fast and very efficiently. The Europeans are also working on this tech. It's only a matter of time before the oil companies will be hurting some. They'll still be rich, but with bio-d, ethanol, and the new biomas gasoline substitute they won't be so bold anymore. Petroleum prices will drop. They'll resist it with hostile corporate buyouts and probably some shady stuff too, but eventually there will be too many alternative fuel companys to buy out or intimidate. Eventually...
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So... are you trying to say that a single fuel can be used in both compression ignition and spark ignition engines effectively? If you are, I'm declaring BS right here and now. --There is no Magic Bullet.-- If bigger is safer, buses are safest. Save yourself, use Transit. |
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If you noticed in my post, the process generates 2 grades. The lighter grade is used in Gas engines and the heavier utilized in Diesel. Both fuels do come from the same process, batch, and feedstock though...so declare BS if you want to, but it works. And very well at that. Do some checking, don't take my word for it.
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I've heard about biomass to liquid conversions. Granted, the BTL conversion isn't new, but to say that the US will be entirely independant from foreign oil by 2009 is a very optimistic, and fairly unrealistic, goal.
However, I see one major caveat about this for us. Homebrewers like us can't do this at home. I can't exactly see someone going in the backyard shed, barn off to the side of the house, whatever, and turning on their homemade biomass to liquid reactors. |
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If the 5 gallons/bushel figure is right, the entire US corn and soybean crops would produce 4.5 million barrels per day. We're using 21 million barrels per day of oil. Bearing in mind we still need to eat, I can't see how anyone can expect biomass to replace the amounts of massive volume of oil required by the "American Lifestyle". That being said, I do hope this works out, just don't expect a miracle.
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Total Crapola!
The 45 minute demonstration video had me rolling on the floor with laughter. What a SCAM! Anyone over 6 years old should be insulted to think he were supposed to believe it was anything more than a comedy. 60 lb of Soy beans (NOT soy oil) yields 5 gal fuel! Without knowing the SG of his wonder fuel, this amounts to around 35 pounds of fuel. Everyone that believes 35 pounds of Wonder Fuel can be recovered from 60 pounds of soy bean raise your hand. And the TOTAL lack of control or verification of anything said or done on the video was breathtaking. Does Off Road Diesel really have a light yellow colour in the USA just like Gasoline apparently has? Apparently his wonder fuel works on the implosion method like the Joe cell. According to the presenter your exhaust manifold apparently does not get hot when using this wonder fuel. This was unbelievely supposed to have been proven when the presenter touching the Head and the off side of a Diesel engine right after starting it up. Hard to imagine that noone there knew what an exhaust manifold looks like or which side of the engine to find it on. If you believe this SCAM you deserve to lose all your money. |
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wolf1, Well I did some checking and you must have been on the Disney channel because the two grades mentioned on their web site are gaseous and liquid. “USSEC has patent pending technology related to gaseous and liquid biofuels made from a natural feedstock” No mention of mutiple liquid grades. Furthermore Mr. rivera states that the liquid fuel could be used in both gas and diesel engines with improvements to both. "Commenting further, Mr. Rivera stated, "Our unique biofuel can be blended 50/50 with either gas, diesel, or biodiesel to widen the range of utilization and also improve the overall performance of the blends."" That's a pretty tall statement especially with very little to back it up. Pay close attention to the last part of his statement. " improve the overall performance of the blends" So I can mix this in my wifes gas car or my diesel truck and get improved horsepower and better fuel mileage in both? And it only costs 50 cents per galon to produce! I wonder if it can remove the big SUCKER printed across my forehead. How about some independent studies showing real world results instead of pie in the sky claims. While I applaude these guys efforts, so far it smells more like they're mostly just trolling for investers. Hey Wolf did you buy some of their stock? Maybe playing a little "pump and run"? At the end of the day remember to always read the fine print. Investors are cautioned that certain statements contained in this document as well as some statements in periodic press release and some oral statements are "Forward-Looking Statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 (the "Act"). Forward-Looking statements include statements which are predictive in nature, which depend upon or refer to future events or conditions, which include words such as "believes," "anticipates," "intends," "plans," "expects," and similar expressions." I may not be from the show me state but they still have to. Joel. |
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Worse than 2 Stage Base/Base? Sorry, couldn't resist. I must admit, some claims seem a bit far fetched. Andrew |
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Hello Andrew
Hard to imagine, but yes. |
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wolf1, Is this your math or theirs? I'm not sure who to laugh at? So we just have to convince "Old McDonald" to quit slopping the hog's and then we can all drive Winnebago's? Seriously, you've got to get off the coolaid or at least fess-up to a pump and run scam. Don't get me wrong, I hope these guys succeed beyond their wildest dreams but so far I'm just seeing the wild dream part. Joel. |
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Sorry, had work to do. Where to start... I agree the Video would not convince or instill confidence in anything. There were more questions left unanswered than answered. I am relying heavily on USSEC's figures, but that doesn't automatically mean those are innacurate. Not saying they're 100% either. Still looking into some figures. I am not a "pump and run" artist, if I was you must admit I'd have better arguements and not waste time on a board made up of "non-investors". Also, I don't believe I.C. Thomasson, Pratt-Whitney, Cornell University and the Municipal Government would be involved if there wasn't something to this. Going back to the video. With potential millions on the line,if it was a scam then you would think some smooth spokesman or a bunch of fancy(meant to impress) demo's with impressive sounding documentation would have been done or presented. As far as I could tell, they said it would run and it ran. I began this post because a friend uses this board and felt like the folks on here would know something about the technology or find it interesting. I can't account for statements Mr. Rivera may have made, but I have seen his fuel work very well. I don't care wether I convince anyone this is the best thing since sliced bread, it's not life or death. Yes, I did buy some stock. Not much, but I also intend to hold for the long term and I guess time will tell. They do make 2 different grades of liquid fuel, in addition to the gaseous. I don't know what the reference means regarding the "offroad diesel color". I don't believe we will even have the option of purchasing this fuel for general vehicle use for a long time if ever. The understanding I got was they will be utilizing it strictly in Electric Power Plant use. Finally, after the engines, both Diesel and Gas ran for quite a while, people were able to touch all over without being burned(including exhaust manifold, pipes, block, ect...). Please perform your own due diligence. I think this companies products will be around for a long time and really benefit our Country. Just my humble thoughts and if I'm proven wrong, it won't be the first or last time. Have a Great Week everyone!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by wolf1:
Yes, I did buy some stock. Not much, but I also intend to hold for the long term and I guess time will tell. QUOTE] wolf1, Well that explains your energetic support. I have to give you credit for being honest. I suppose if I had some spare change floating around I'd buy a few shares just so I could get all giddy when it goes up $.02 a share. If you're bored here's some big time penny stock day traders getting all white knuckled about USSEC stock. http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/ubb/ultimate...16/t/000397/p/1.html Somebody just answer me one question. How can a fuel have a higher BTU content and yet produce less heat when combusted. I'm sure there's some logical explanation that makes it possible (incomplete combustion) but To my layman's mind more BTU's = more heat. As to the color of the offroad diesel, I think Tilly was reffering to the lack of the required red dye. Just a guess correct me if I'm wrong. Joel. |
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Big names to throw around, but that doesn't mean that there's legitimate results yet. Not to mention that they could very well simply be throwing names around. Add in the fact that municipal governments get involved in pretty much everything...
I'll share some wisdom my high school physics teacher taught us: when faced with something too good to be true, look for the battery. Obviously a reference to perpetual motion machines, but in this instance I think it applies. I could "prove" a new fuel's viability with just the stuff I have in my garage, just pour it in and voila it runs.... as long as you don't look at the fact that those injector lines are conveniently redirected and I'm really running off a hidden gas tank. Not saying that's what happened, but I am saying that things are not always as they appear.
I haven't seen reference for that statement yet, merely a gaseous and liquid fuel.
Good, that means there will be an EPA report on it already. Show it to me.
The temperature needed to "burn" someone is, what, 212F or 100C? You can be skin-damaged at lower temperatures than that, too. So going by this claim, that engine is operating under or just above this temperature (100C). Nevermind that a diesel running that low of a temperature in-chamber is going to have serious problems on down the line, simple thermodynamics says it's not going to produce much power. Heat engines produce power through the expansion of a fluid with the application of heat; greater heat is needed for greater expansion. Less heat = less expansion = less power. And they say it's supposed to be an improvement in performance? --There is no Magic Bullet.-- If bigger is safer, buses are safest. Save yourself, use Transit. |
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