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I am not a canola expert. Canola is not very difficult to grow if you have the equipment and know someone who is an expert. You need to be able to plant 5 lbs. of seed per acre, that is not much. I was lucky that VA Tech and VA State university have canola experts on staff. VA State U developed a variety of canola called "Virginia" that is commercially available now.

I don't know how I forgot that we also planted 10 acres of spring canola this year (2008) to see how it grows in our climate. I was told it will not do well.
 
Location: Virginia | Registered: 17 March 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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What type of climate does canola do best in?


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Grover McKee from Salemby Farms at Burden, Kansas, began to grow rapeseeds (canola) during the 2005 year. You can consult him at: salemby@hotmail.com

They use several Tinyoil presses for making cake and oil, and one Savoia M20 module for BD & glycerol production.

Anyway, please remember that the main experts about growing canola in cold climates are at Canada.

At the north of Argentina, we have our own integrated plant crushing soyabean. We market the cake for animal feeding (pork, chicken, fish farms and milk cows), and the oil is processed to methylester (solvents, herbicides, coadyuvants, fuel) and glycerol (bactericide, insecticides for cattle and vegetable crops, soaps, hand cleaners)

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From what I have read Canola and rapeseed are not the same crop, Canola is a modified rapeseed that was developed in CAnada, hense CA-nolla, Wikipedia (HERE) says canola is much lower in erucic acid and glucosinolates than rapeseed, looks like there are now several veriants, the latest being genetically munipulated to have the least amounts of the above components plus other improvements. The largest amount of canola grown in the states is grown in North Dakota, cool and also dry, I would suspect summer there should be about the same as winters in Virginia. Canola is about the same as growing soybeans, dry weather during harvest time can cause the seedpods to crack and loose there seed, can happen before or during combining.

Wiki indicates 3-4 million metric TONS of seed being exported each year from Canada alone, seed should be available someplace?
 
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Ok, now you're getting TOO cocky... Big Grin
Anyways, I have a question: does anybody know where I can find good information about growing jatropha curcas?


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You can read in english at: www.svlele.com

In spanish at: www.jatrophacurcas.com.ar

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Thank you Carlos. Where in Argentina do you live?
I'm from Buenos Aires. Smile


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Si, mi oficina esta en Pompeya.

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Originally posted by RedLance:
I too am dreaming about growing my own oil. My families farm has about 95 acres of row crop land. I want to be able to grow canola as a winter cover crop, so Dad can still raise what he wants in the summer. He has brought it up a few times...says he wants to talk to the ASC office, and we are having a little trouble getting seed. A University in Kansas is the closest source I've found so far.

Not sure how well it will do here in south eastern Nebraska...


i'm from crofton ne and have actually been to crete.

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Steve the ceo of denver biodiesel coop showed me an oil seed called calamilla? this weekend. Also of the mustard family. The seeds/oil are selling to the cosmetic industry for a premium price. It makes great biodiesel, very low in long chain fatty acids, good cold weather bd. It is not a hybrid, so the grower just holds out seed for the next winter.

Any yon w/knowledge?


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Camelina, AKA falseflax -- check it out:

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jatropha seeds $4.00 / 25 seeds including shipping to the us. (e-bay)

**grows as a bush 40 yr life span 'no replanting'
**grows well in poor conditions
**40%ish oil content
**yield was amazing (will look it up and post)
**grows well from cuttings (although at 25 for $4 it might be cheaper to buy more seeds as rooting hormones are expensive but an amazing set of genetics could be propagated on a plant by plant basis)

looks very promising (i've started calling it the gasoline tree)
 
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I just looking for some bulk Peredovik black oil sunflower seed at my local farm store recently, I didn't find that specific seed but I did find Safflower seed, the seed is sold for broadcast planting rather than as a bird feed seed, a 25 pound bag is $19.95.
 
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I have been reseaqrching and talking with a gent in NZ about growing a tree called Pongiama ( SP?)
Its a small tree/ bush like plant that has a 30% oil yield from it's seed pods and has a lot of medicinal uses and is also edible and has a high vitamin content/ The UN has called it "The miracle tree" as just a small amount added to the family meal can provide enough vitamins to keep a whole host of disease and afflictions at bay.

The oil yield from the plant is very high and it would not take much land at all to grow enough of ones own oil to keep the average ( maybe not average American though) vehicle on the road year round. I have a friend that has an amount of land on the outskirts of the city that is quite happy for me to plant some of these trees on his property and see how they go.

At this stage, I think it would be a buzz to grow one tankful of totally home made fuel. Anything over that would be quite something for someone that lives in a city area I think! Smile


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I have a couple acres of desert in southern Arizona and a source for a small amount of wild native veriety of Jojoba seed, the yield is small and it takes a few years for the bushes to produce seed but a web referance says Johoba oil has great friction reducing properties, don't know if it would be worth growing as a friction reducing additive or not, at around $20-$30 dollars/gallon for the oil it may be worth messing with?

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JOJOBA IN PERSPECTIVE. Jojoba (pronounced ho-HO-ba), Simmondsia chinensis, is a hardy shrub which grows wild in the Sonoran desert in northern Mexico and southwest USA. Its seeds contain an oil, which is really a liquid wax, that is very similar in properties to sperm whale oil. This kind of wax is difficult and expensive to synthesize in commercial quantities, so the demand for jojoba or sperm whale oil seems sure to continue. The oil is excellent as a lubricant under high pressures and temperatures. (The Christian Science Monitor says that a few drops of jojoba oil added to transmission fluid has been found to reduce internal temperature 20øF and in turn double the life of the transmission.) It is an excellent agent for controlling foaming in penicillin, requiring only 1/6 the amount of sperm whale oil used for the same purpose. Its main use is in cosmetics.
 
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Originally posted by DCS:The UN has called it "The miracle tree" as just a small amount added to the family meal can provide enough vitamins to keep a whole host of disease and afflictions at bay.


Morninga Oleifera: Could this be the tree you are referring to? I'd be interested in coming by some growing stock myself.

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I have a couple acres of desert in southern Arizona and a source for a small amount of wild native veriety of Jojoba seed, the yield is small and it takes a few years for the bushes to produce seed but a web referance says Johoba oil has great friction reducing properties, don't know if it would be worth growing as a friction reducing additive or not, at around $20-$30 dollars/gallon for the oil it may be worth messing with?

---- web info found --

JOJOBA IN PERSPECTIVE. Jojoba (pronounced ho-HO-ba), Simmondsia chinensis, is a hardy shrub which grows wild in the Sonoran desert in northern Mexico and southwest USA. Its seeds contain an oil, which is really a liquid wax, that is very similar in properties to sperm whale oil. This kind of wax is difficult and expensive to synthesize in commercial quantities, so the demand for jojoba or sperm whale oil seems sure to continue. The oil is excellent as a lubricant under high pressures and temperatures. (The Christian Science Monitor says that a few drops of jojoba oil added to transmission fluid has been found to reduce internal temperature 20øF and in turn double the life of the transmission.) It is an excellent agent for controlling foaming in penicillin, requiring only 1/6 the amount of sperm whale oil used for the same purpose. Its main use is in cosmetics.


i looked up jojoba and see that it has good oil in good amounts but the plant won't produce oil seeds for the first five to seven years

i'm planning on using jatropha bushes because even though they take a few years to get to full production they do put out some in the first years.

what i did like about the jojoba oil was that it is apparently a very special kind of oil more like whale oil then veg oil without the fishy smell

despite the long time it takes to produce i would like to add 100 or so jojoba trees.
the sooner they're started the sooner it will produce!
 
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Very cool, Do you put down fertilizer with beans or canola? The price of fertilizer round here is crazy this year, 12/12/12 $12 bux a bag, 18/18/18 $16 bux a bag, crazy stuff man.


We spread turkey litter (crap) on the canola ground before planting in the Fall and then spread more on the crop in the spring. The litter has around 60 lbs. of nitrogen per ton and other fertilizer elements. The turkey litter comes out of our own barns. Soy beans need some fertilizer but no nitrogen.


One thing I've been wondering about would be using human waste (Sludge) as fertilizer for biofuels.

Advantages:
Waste taken completely out of human food chain. Good fertilizer. Cheap (often free for the asking).

Disadvantages:
People frequently put stuff down the drain that you don't want on your crops.
Is it possible to permanently contaminate your cropland, especially with metal deposits?
 
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Si, mi oficina esta en Pompeya.

saludos

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Hmmm, Pompeya...
Yo estuve viviendo en Monserrat, hasta que me vine para Miami.


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