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Greetings from New Hampshire all! I pulled the trigger & ordered the kit Friday. Also ordered a 2nd bottle of the "secret formula". I plan to burn in a 1993 250hp Turbo Diesel (mechanical). Will be spending the next week or so sniffing out sources for the oil.
Will keep you posted & looking foward to seeing more posts on the topic. Yeah they are making some coin on the postage but hey, we all have to make the green! Robert |
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Regarding the "diesel secrets" blend....What becomes of the fatty acids and fats found in wvo? What is to prevent the diesel secrets blend from clogging up the fuel pump or injectors when the motor is shut off and this blend cools down?
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After I posted this I made another post devoted to all the posts out there on Diesel Secret / DSE.
The link to it is below: http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/419605551/m/1311010701 Maybe sticky it instead? There's a link to this thread in it as well... -Graydon
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Yeah that was an old street racer trick. Put a couple of mothballs in your gas tank to win the drag race. Problem was, it turned your engine into a combination highspeed milling machine and blow torch. Saw alot of seized and/or melted down engines. Illegitimi Non Carborundum |
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20gal filtered WVO, 2gal Kerosene, 1gal unleaded gas, 15oz Power Service+Centane boost additive, 3.5oz of DSE mix slowly for 5 minuets and put it in the tank.
Q I tried it twice, once the standard mix and one for a 30 degree mix. Both were notciably thicker after placing in the fridge overnight. It's not going in my Cummns. Several have tried it on a couple of other forums. I agree with most above, it could be a stabilizer, acetone type enhancer or whatever, the problem is if you keep trying to dilute it down to stop gelling, your cost keep going up. I think you're just as good saving the $20 and burn Kerosene and WVO |
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I decided to go ahead and order the DSE. It, indeed, looks like it's snake oil, but I'm going to give it first try of blends in my 1985 300D and I will let you all know what happens. Maybe it will keep the wax from dropping out of the remaining diesel in the tank.
1985 Mercedes 300D, sold, Heat exchanger and injector line heaters, all single tank. 1997 E300D Benz using 50% diesel, 50% VO single tank |
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Got my order yesterday. I haordered a 2dn bottle. For a 20 gallons of Veg. Oil they want you to add 2 gallons of Kerosene, 1 gallon or geg. unleaded gas, 15Oz od "power Service Additive" (they suggest Diesel-Kleen + Cetane boost,3.5 oz. of the "secret formula.
Now, I see that I shoudl be getting a link to a video (not yet) so I emailed them asking when I will get the video link. My email was bounced back from their server, mailbox full. Hmmmm |
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WOW, I should have done a spell check...Sorry
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I see people are still buying this stuff. It is just a mixture of aromatic solvents. Benzene is no longer permitted because it is carcinogenic but by adding a methyl group or two to the benzene ring it becomes safer. So we have toluene and zylol, still aromatic and hence high octane, and hence low cetane. No wonder they recommend a cetane enhancer with it. Not the sort of stuff I would want in a diesel.
These things in bulk are pretty cheap, so cheap that they have been sneaked into Australian petrol to dodge excise. If you want to use it get a drum of xylol or toluene but kerosene is better. It lowers viscosity well without degrading cetane. |
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Well P.T. Barnum was quoted as saying 'there is a sucker born every minute".
All I can say for those who wish to use this stuff 'caveat emptor', buyer beware. Illegitimi Non Carborundum |
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Has anyone here really tried it. It sounds too good to be true. I called one of their testimonials. They said they had been using it for 7 months in 2 Ford 7.3's and can't tell the difference.
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Nice, don't forget the DSE secret additive.
This message has been edited. Last edited by: Shaun, |
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Wow,
They're only about 1 old water heater and 3 valves short of an appleseed. They've already got most of the expensive stuff, and finding the oil is often the hardest part anyway(at least around here). Ranting on... 1) I'd rather run an unwashed, mediocre batch of BIO than trust to a few tablespoons of whatever that is. 2) I'd rather have a sealed container of methanol around than an unsealed container containing Gasoline. 3) While I'm at it did anyone else notice the discrepency between the nice sealable collection barrels and the trash can in the garage? Now that's what I call a fools bargain. This message has been edited. Last edited by: txChris, '03 Jetta TDI, B100 |
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Someone emailed me the other day and said she had IP failure in a VW after using DSE.
Beware!  Farmer |
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they are selling dimethylbenzene & xylol.... in effect a good multi fuel stabilizer iv'e used the formula for thousands of miles in my 1997 ram 3500 4X4 with 250,000+miles on it i have never replaced the glo-plugs....in fact my trucks lift pump had gone out nearly a year ago, i got a new one ($340.00)and put it behind my seat to put on later. u see my truck would stall all the time, wouldn't start well it was really annoying! then i went to the formula all the contraversy is about, i've never looked back! the new pump is still in the box behind the seat, my truck has still yet to stall since day one! I SWEAR THIS IS THE HONEST TO GOD TRUTH! i tried biodiesel for a while thats when my truck started stalling, the dodge dealer siad the corrosive nature of biodiesel most likely knocked my lift pump out, he also said that if my pump was newer it probily would have survived. remember the DSE formula is a starting point, they don't tell u that, one learned it is real fast.i can make 46 gallons in undr an hour! summer fuel .46---winter fuel .80 cents. i will show anyone how to do this right. $297.00 (u will save this many times over!) http://www.affordablediesel.com clark taplin 615-390-7556 (pretty brave huh!) |
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"a sucker born every minute" thats what they said about that frantz oil filter on your truck! dont worry i love them, have one on my truck too. |
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More power to you. There are lots of successful blenders. From what you and others say, the DSE is no "secret", and the ingredients can be duplicated without the high price and the sleazy marketing. What data do you have on low temperature performance? How do you change your blend to deal with cold? From what I've been led to believe, blends are typically not tolerant of low temperature (less than 0C). |
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He's not trying to spread information about this snake oil, He's trying to sell you his system, at about 5 times the price of DSE.
I still don't understand how running this blend fixed his broken fuel pump??? |
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Clark, your 1997 - does it have the VP44 pump that the WVO guys warn about? I don't know the whole story - something about it being lubed by fuel rather than engine oil, tends to eat itself if there's a problem with the lift...? Maybe I've got the year wrong, but i saw something about it on the Greasel page, and Craig Reece's too....
Neil
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