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Human cold-related fatalities are nearly 10 times more than heat-related fatalities. Antonio Gasparrini et al, Lancet 2015.
http://www.thelancet.com/journ...(14)62114-0/abstract
"More temperature-attributable deaths were caused by cold (7·29%, 7·02–7·49) than by heat (0·42%, 0·39–0·44). Extreme cold and hot temperatures were responsible for 0·86% (0·84–0·87) of total mortality."




 
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Shocking new discovery!
3% of Canadians are not very proud or not proud at all to be Canadians!








 
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And your point is????

Bill


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In Canada, Recreational activities account for almost two-thirds of drownings!
The Most Common Primary Recreational Activities people who drown are participating in is swimming!


Walking, running, and playing near water is the second most common recreational cause of drowning.




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And your point is????
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The same as John's Wink







 
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Hi Mike,

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Human cold-related fatalities are nearly 10 times more than heat-related fatalities. Antonio Gasparrini et al, Lancet 2015.
The thing I am struggling to understand here is that they claim to have gleaned this "fact" by studying over 74 million deaths in a number of different countries.

I think it is extremely unlikely that many, if any death certificates would actually list Moderately Cold weather as the cause of death.
Also, knowing that you continually claim that statistics and modeling are notoriously unreliable, unscientific, and meaningless, how was this fact of huge amounts of "death by moderately cold weather" arrived at?






 
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Scientists Find Climate’s ‘Cause Of Causes’…Highest Solar Activity In 4000 Years Just Ended…Cooling Begins In 2025

“It is generally accepted that the climate warms during periods of strong solar activity (e.g., the Medieval Warm Period) and cools during periods of low solar activity (e.g., the Little Ice Age).” — Lyu et al., 2016





http://notrickszone.com/2017/0...sthash.G9zkj1UJ.dpbs



 
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Hi Mike,
Of course, the climate change "cause of causes"!!
Why hasn't anyone twigged to the "Cause of Causes" for global warming before? Confused


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Scientists Find Climate’s ‘Cause Of Causes’…Highest Solar Activity In 4000 Years Just Ended…Cooling Begins In 2025.
So let me see now, instead of the Ice Age having already started a year or two ago as you have repeatedly posted, The beginning of the Ice Age has been put off now until 2025 and then boy will it get cold.

Thanks for clearing that up.




PS This sunspot chart does not agree with the one you posted



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Nice to meet you Mr Smith. I hear you are very concerned about dangerous global warming.

Mr Smith
Yes, we are facing an alarming prospect of a global warming catastrophe.

Socrates
What gives you such concern?

Mr Smith
Emissions of CO2 from burning fossil fuels.

Socrates
How were these fossil fuels formed?

Mr Smith
Various plant forms grew, died and formed fossil fuels before and during the Carboniferous Period.

Socrates
Was there dangerous global warming prior to the Carboniferous Period?

Mr Smith
No. There’s no evidence of dangerous global warming prior to the Carboniferous period.

Socrates
So where did the carbon in fossil fuels originate?

Mr Smith
Plants absorbed CO2 from the atmosphere prior to the formation of fossil fuels.

Socrates
So the CO2 absorbed by plants is now being released from burning fossil fuels.

Mr Smith
It must be so.

Socrates
You have observed there was no dangerous global warming prior to CO2 being absorbed to form fossil fuels, so how could the same CO2 now being released cause dangerous global warming?

Mr Smith
I find the implication of your question provocative and disturbing. You should know there is a move to bring charges against you for corrupting youth with your philosophical questions.

Socrates
I am well aware that people are disturbed by my philosophical enquiries which reveal the truth with compelling logic and facts which refute long held beliefs. Our conversation has been no exception.

Mr Smith
I have to go now.

http://joannenova.com.au/2017/...bout-climate-change/



 
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Goodness me Mike,

What woud Socrates think if he knew that this forum's self- proclaimed preeminent "Earth Scientist" did not understand the Carbon Cycle

Education is in a very sad state.






 
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Massive Data Tampering Uncovered At NASA – Warmth, Cooling Disappears Due To Incompatibility With Models
http://notrickszone.com/2017/0...sthash.RmdiuJhD.dpbs
By Kenneth Richard on 16. January 2017









Why Did NASA Eliminate The Early 20th Century Warming And Mid-20th Century Cooling?

The fundamental reason why NASA has manipulated past temperature data is so that the historical climate record may conform to the IPCC models that presume variations in surface temperatures are predominantly determined by anthropogenic CO2 emissions. Fossil fuels consumption in particular and anthropogenic CO2 emissions in general plodded along steadily at about 1 GtC/year (gigatons of carbon per year) during the 1900 to 1945 period. Then, after 1945, human emissions exploded. They reached 4 GtC/year by the 1970s, 6 GtC/year by the 1990s, and 10 GtC/year by 2014.

NASA recognized that (a) anthropogenic CO2 emissions were not rising much at all while the surface temperatures were rising dramatically (1880s-1940s), and that (b) surface temperatures were cooling (1940s to 1970s) while anthropogenic CO2 emissions were surging upwards. These observed trends did not support climate modeling; instead, they undermined the models. So, to counteract this, NASA has undergone a decades-long effort to change past temperature data that do not adhere to modeled expectations.



 
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Mike! Mike! Mike! Look! Look! Look!

There has been NO WARMING in Central England since 1995!
That is the field just outside Birmingham near the Cosco!




Surely that proves that global Warming is a HOAX!






 
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The delusional war on warmth
http://www.americanthinker.com...l_war_on_warmth.html
By Viv Forbes
January 17, 2017

For decades, global warming scaremongers have been stealing energy from the environment using windmills, solar collectors, and biofuels, force-fed by carbon taxes and emission trading schemes. Their delusional dream is to cool the globe.

However, there has been no global warming for nearly 20 years. Right now, the great ice sheets are growing thicker, and record snow is blanketing much of the climate change leader, the Northern Hemisphere landmass. Solar panels are blinded by snow, and turbines don't turn in the cold still air, or else they have to be shut down because of icing or high winds. Like all green things, wind and solar power often hibernate in winter.

Meanwhile, the unloved all-weather energy producers (coal, gas, and nuclear) are straining at their limits, as families huddle around heaters fearing the first flickers of failure from overloaded power grids.

No food is produced from land smothered in snow – farmers fear late frosts and welcome early spring rains and warmth.

For the last million years, Earth has experienced long cycles of ice separated by short warm inter-glacials. Today's warm era is already a mature twelve thousand years old, and Earth's climate is fluctuating naturally toward the next glacial cycle in which many animals and plants will perish. Only fools would assist the return of the ice.

Warmists are making a massive mistake by assuming that global cooling is better than global warming. They are ignoring their precious "Precautionary Principle."

A frigid ice house is far more dangerous and destructive than a warm greenhouse.

Disclosure: Viv Forbes is a geologist who has studied geological and climate history; and a farmer who watches the pastures die in the dry cold winters as the livestock and wildlife wait for the warmer weather and spring storms.

Further Reading:

Wind and solar will fail in Germany:
http://energypost.eu/end-energiewende/

Snow a thing of the past?:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/17/2795254/

Seven feet of Snow in Greece:
https://www.iceagenow.info/jumping-7-feet-snow-video/
https://www.iceagenow.info/
https://www.iceagenow.info/sno...alian-beaches-video/

20 people dead in Europe Freeze:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTbFYJLFIDk

Antarctic Ice Sheet gaining mass:
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/g...-greater-than-losses

Many Glaciers are Advancing: https://www.iceagenow.com/Medv..._10_feet_per_day.htm

Arctic Sea Ice is Stable:
https://realclimatescience.com...e-thickness-as-1940/

Greenland gaining ice:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sci...aise-sea-levels.html

Sea levels are hardly moving:
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/...ling-for-7000-years/

Cold kills more people than heat:
http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/...-6736(14)62114-0.pdf
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/1...-is-coming.html?_r=0



 
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Oh my goodness Mike.
I can see cabin fever has struck early this year!

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For decades, global warming scaremongers have been stealing energy from the environment using windmills, solar collectors, and biofuels, force-fed by carbon taxes and emission trading schemes.
Unbelievable!!! People are actually STEALING energy from the environment without paying for it.
What will they sink to next???



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Their delusional dream is to cool the globe.
I thought their delusional dream was to stop global warming. Do you mean they want to start another Ice Age???



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Meanwhile, the unloved all-weather energy producers (coal, gas, and nuclear) are straining at their limits, as families huddle around heaters fearing the first flickers of failure from overloaded power grids.
It is so sad, These noble unloved all-weather energy producers are so misunderstood.
Most people actually think they are only in it for the money.



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Only fools would assist the return of the ice.
What are these fools doing to assist the return of the ice?
That's right, they are Stealing energy from the environment without paying for it!!







 
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Unbelievable!







 
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Climate Change Is Turning Canada into Margaritaville
Written by Grennan Milliken
January 19, 2017

The new reports are out: everything, from Thailand to Saskatchewan, is heating up. By the end of the century, people may be planning destination weddings in Canada, now poised to become a balmy getaway.



A balmy winter wedding in Whitehorse

Last year was the hottest year on record—marking the third successive year that record has been broken, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) global temperature report. This means unprecedented global warming, and the both extreme and subtle weather changes within the next century.

Meanwhile, in the first ever study on how climate change will affect mild weather—the kind many of us experience the most—scientists from NOAA and Princeton University predict that patterns of mild weather are likely to shift away from the equator toward the poles.
Our cities and daily activities are built around these days of mild weather, the days that are neither too hot nor cold to be outside, and losing them could have negative impacts on our economies and health.






 
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...and now they claim the same about 2016.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/20...s-warmer-than-today/

Failed Math: In 1997, NOAA claimed that the Earth was 3.83 degrees warmer than today
Anthony Watts / January 21, 2016

Steve McIntyre always told us to “watch the pea under the thimble” when it comes to climate change pronouncements, this is one of those cases. Yesterday, to much media fanfare, wailing, and gnashing of teeth NOAA pronounced that 2015 was the hottest year on record, ever! There’s only one problem with that…the Internet never forgets. Back in 1997 after the super El Nino made global temperatures soar, NOAA/NCDC produced this report:

1997-GAT-NOAA-NCDC

Source: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/199713 (h/t to Tom Nelson)

Archived here: http://web.archive.org/web/201...v/sotc/global/199713

In that 1997 report, they say clearly that the Global Average Temperature (GAT) was 62.45°F, based on a 30-year average (1961-1990) of the combined land and sea surface temperatures. Since we know the 1997 El Nino caused a record high spike in temperature, that means that for that 30 year period, there was no warmer GAT than 62.45°F up until that time.

Yet in 2015, the claim for the “warmest ever” GAT is different:

NOAA-NCDC-GAT-2015

They say:

During 2015, the average temperature across global land and ocean surfaces was 1.62°F (0.90°C) above the 20th century average. This was the highest among all 136 years in the 1880–2015 record, surpassing the previous record set last year by 0.29°F (0.16°C) and marking the fourth time a global temperature record has been set this century.

Source: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/...y-info/global/201512



 
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