Yes, I second this request as i'm ready to go this route.. Any one have one going, also what are people using for pumps and motors for it.

anyone think making a closed system and pull a vac on it to boil out the water while centrifuging would be worth it fixing to start making a 250 gallon set-up and i am willing to try a few ideas with it anyone have any input?

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Originally posted by mltj74:
anyone think making a closed system and pull a vac on it to boil out the water while centrifuging would be worth it fixing to start making a 250 gallon set-up and i am willing to try a few ideas with it anyone have any input?

Theoretically IMHO you only want to evaporate water out AFTER Cfuging. Not durring or before. The water is heavy it Cfuges out easy taking with it anything that is smaller (Salts Sugars acids...) that disolved in the water. If you get any evaporation before and maybe even durring then the junk that was disolved in the water is now fored into the oil and may well be harder to Cfuge it out.

fine point there forgot about that it was a idea

Is the FF25 the same as the one on their site called the 'Model 75'? I don't see a FF25 on the website...

Here's a pump close-coupled with a motor that should be good for 75 gal/hr. I think it was originally suggested by Sunwiz in the DC thread. $280
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/6PA31

I don't live very far away from the Spin Clean place, maybe I'll drop by and see them in person, I wish they had more info on their site.

Alan

Not sure if this is what you are lookig for but I just ordered one here from Canada, it is the ff25lp (if memery serves me).
Was looking at the DieselCraft as everyone seems to like them but the canadian supplier wants $425.00. Can't understand why as the dollar is almost at par with the US.
They show it cleaning WVO in the web page.

Darren

http://www.dieselproducts.com

I just ordered the spin clean and the motor and pump noted above.. They should be a perfect match for each other.. Both should be here in 7-10 days.

Looks like they sell 2 very similar products. Not sure if there is any difference (maybe no air assist for 'Spinner II'?)

1- Spin Clean http://www.dieselproducts.com/spinclean/spinclean.html

2- Spinner II http://www.dieselproducts.com/spinner/sp_sizing.html

From the sounds of the models being referred to, it seems like most ppl are getting the 'Spinner II' product. Specs on that smallest model (#25) are 60 gal/hr whereas the smallest 'Spin Clean' does 75 gal/hr.

Don't take this as gospel, I haven't talked to anyone over there, was just poking around the website...

Alan

When I ordered David was out but I asked for the ff25 deal as noted above in the thread.. at $159 and $10 s/h when I mentioned the FF25 they knew what I was tanking about.. we will see what I get..

I'm curious to see how these perform as compared to the Diesel Craft units. I just posted on Sunwizards CF thread asking if anyone knew anything about the Spin Clean units. Hopefully, someone will have experience with both and be willing to share their insights and opinions.

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Originally posted by welder:
I'm curious to see how these perform as compared to the Diesel Craft units. I just posted on Sunwizards CF thread asking if anyone knew anything about the Spin Clean units. Hopefully, someone will have experience with both and be willing to share their insights and opinions.

yes, if this is a comprable cf, then we will save some sweet coin.

My spin clean shipped today from Canada.. My pump should be in tomorrow from Grainger.. Thats good to because, I have a bunch of oil to filter and only about 5 gallons of clean vo in the veg tank.. Had to run on diesel to go pickup the stuff I got today.

Mr Bacherville, I really hope you keep us informed about your progress with the Spin Clean.

There seems to be a vacuum of performance data with these units. Hopefully, it will prove equal to the Diesel Craft CF, but at a lower price.

From what I've read so far, Sunwizards thread seems very informative. You might gain some insights into how to best operate your Spin Clean CF from Sunwizards development efforts with the Diesel Craft. It may save time, trouble and money to avoid any unnecessary growing pains this way.

If you get good results, I may buy a Spin Clean myself. Otherwise, I might just go with the Diesel Craft.

yes,
Ebacherville
please keep us informed, and ask any questions so we can help if possible.

it appears welder and I are very interested, probably many more.

I will post results here, from everrything i have seen the spinclean is almost identical to DC model.

My Motor and pump head came in tooday but I could not make it there before
they closed... so I will get that on monday.
Motor and pump head came in tooday but I could notmake it there before they closed... so ii will get that on monday.

Ebacherville

No rush, buddy! Take your time. You don't want an oil slick in your garage.

I know that I already mentioned this, but Sunwizards big thread (it's an encyclopedia!) likely has much info to offer that will prevent mistakes. For example, these types of fluid driven CF units need a 3 way valve installed after the rotor so that when shutting down, the water and crud can be drained out from the rotor or else it jusr runs into the clean oil and re-contaminates it.

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Originally posted by welder:
I know that I already mentioned this, but Sunwizards big thread (it's an encyclopedia!) likely has much info to offer that will prevent mistakes.

Here is a link to SunWizard's summary. There is a lot of the good information boiled down to a couple pages. http://www.xyzworks.com/centrifuge.htm

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For example, these types of fluid driven CF units need a 3 way valve installed after the rotor so that when shutting down, the water and crud can be drained out from the rotor or else it jusr runs into the clean oil and re-contaminates it.

Let me put this in perspective. While a very small amount of particles can exit the CF when it slows downs, we are talking only a fraction of what the CF holds and it will likely be so heavy it would drop to the bottom of the barrel and either get caught later in the CF or stick to the bottom. Since it is only a pinch, the majority don't have three way valves but catch the contents in a pan as the CF slows down for cleaning. Since you will need a pan to put the hot rotor in to clean it anyway, it doesn't add much to your time to hold the pan under the CF while it slows and catches about 1/2 cup of oil that might have (depending on how dirty the oil is) a pitch of coffee ground like particles and maybe 2ml of water (at worse).

Sam

If that is the case, why catch it at all? I have a 5 micron "just in case" filter on the puimp I use to fill my car. Add that to the other filters IN the car...wouldn't such a small amount of debris get caught in one of those filters? Are we rerally talking about 1/2 cup or so in 50 gallons?
QTBand

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Originally posted by Qtband:
If that is the case, why catch it at all? I have a 5 micron "just in case" filter on the puimp I use to fill my car. Add that to the other filters IN the car...wouldn't such a small amount of debris get caught in one of those filters? Are we rerally talking about 1/2 cup or so in 50 gallons?
QTBand

Yes, most of the time I only catch it as I'm lefting the rotor out of the CF. If it is the first cleaning I catch it all so I can assess the water, but after that, I have less worry.

Even saying a 1/2 cup of dirty oil is over stating it. More like having a 1/2 cup of very clean oil with a pinch of fine black deposit on the bottom of the pan. And... since I run the CF for an extended period, most of that would get taken out anyway, or settle in a place in the barrel that doesn't get sucked up.

For me to discount the value of being sure to catch the contents is significant in that I'm very anal about cleaning my oil, it is very, very clean and dry before I use it. I've posted photos of the filters I use post CF on the DieselCraft thread (book) if anyone wants to see how clean they are after passing hundreds of gallons of oil.

Sam

Sam

The main reason to capture the output is to get the water. The particles it puts out is minor compared to the water. Water is a hard thing to get out if you let it dump into the barrel. I have had some batches with much more than a few ml of water in the rotor, up to several ounces of visible water (100 ml).