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Originally posted by Rydogg:

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Originally posted by Dieselherb:
If I purchase 10 or more units I can get the FF60LE for $272 shipped or the FF25LE for $188 shipped.

Diesleherb, did they just change their prices or something? I, and a lot of others, just purchased the FF60 for $215 ($230 shipped) as of two months ago. Your discounted price is 18% higher than my non-discounted price.

Apparently these things did just go through a MASSIVE price jump and are retailing for $299+20s/h (FF60). I don't know WHAT happened between April and now but I think Dieselherb's got the best deal around for right now...

I am finally relatively satisfied with both my ff60's but it did require me to make new bushings for both of them, they are now reasonably quiet, bur not as quiet as my spinner II 960 right out of the box.

This is the new setup, I moved the other motor and pump to my wash tank, I got another pump capable of 16gpm and a 1hp motor so I would have all I need to spin 2 ff60's, it finished 200 gallons of oil last night in 4 hours, from settled but still very wet to clean and bone dry, I got some vibration eliminators from mcmaster and mounted the fuges on plates then the eliminators go in between the fuge plates and the plates welded to the fuge tank.

Fabricator,

Do you just catch the water under your CF as soon as you cut it off like Sunwizard was talking about???

No, but I dont have to shut down and clean during a run either, I have never had more than 1/4 inch of stuff to clean out of the bowl, and by the time a run is done there is not much water left.

That's because the FF60 is not dynamically balanced, only the sizes larger than the 60's. Maybe you can take it somewhere to be dynamically balanced? Let's see, have to press in new bushings and dynamically balance to make it run quiet. Probably better off spending the extra $ and buy a Dieselcraft. What about the Spinner 960? Does it have balance marks?

I'm supposed to get my replacement FF60 shipped very soon.

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Originally posted by fabricator:
I am finally relatively satisfied with both my ff60's but it did require me to make new bushings for both of them, they are now reasonably quiet, bur not as quiet as my spinner II 960 right out of the box.

Hey no argument from me, the spincleans are junk as far as I'm concerned, but I needed to be filtering oil and making fuel, not shipping fuges back and forth, this whole thing only proves beyond any doubt "You get what you pay for".
The spinner does not have alingment marks, but the quality is not even comparable, when you spin it there is NO wobble or runout, when it runs you have to listen to hear it over the electric motor, sooner or later I will end up with four spinner 960's.
I hope you end up with a good spinclean but I would not count on it.

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Originally posted by fabricator:
I am finally relatively satisfied with both my ff60's but it did require me to make new bushings for both of them, they are now reasonably quiet, bur not as quiet as my spinner II 960 right out of the box.

How difficult is the process of making your own bushings? and would you suggest that or for someone to purchase a Dieselcraft (I'm looking between the ff60 and the OC-50, as a reference...I would like the savings of the 60, but ...)
Then again, in looking at the Spinner II 960, they can be had for $449 also (same as the OC-50). Is that the better/best to go with?
Thanks,
-Scott

It's not all that difficult if you have a lathe and expanding mandrels, if it were me I would go with either the oc50 or the spinner 960, the spin clean is just to low quality and finding a good one would be just luck.

Thanks. I was kind of leaning in that direction anyway.
Currently, there's a 'powerbuy' going on where you can get 15% off the OC-50, which brings it down to about $430 or so. The Spinner II 960 appears to be the comparable CF, at $449. I don't know if either one of these companies/products have better quality, features, or customer support. Anyone have any ideas?

Spinner 960: 120 Gal/hour. Holds 900cc of contaminants.
Dieselcraft OC-50: 1.8 Gal/min (108g/hr). Holds 20 oz of contaminants.
(don't know about the required pump/pressure needs for either - assuming they are relatively the same for each)
Thanks for any help.
-Scott

Quality is about the same between spinner and dieselcraft, but not filterfuge. The dieselcraft comes with 2 tees, hose fittings, valve, and guage, and their customer support can't be beat. Few have bought spinners here so not many reports of how their support is.

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The spinclean I am using is working fine. I left mine run while I went to mow the grass. When I got back the pressure must have gone over the max because the rubber "O" ring was hanging out from under the inner cap. I cleaned out everything but it wouldn't hold the ring in and wouldn't build up the pressure or spin. I called the factory and they sent me a replacement cap for $12.00. I can't complain about the service or the cost!! Guess I'll have to keep a closer eye on things!!

I hear ya. Shipping stuff back and forth across borders and waiting for a month is no fun. Good that I already have a DC OC-20 and my filter/settling system (which works as good if not better than the OC-20 as far as quality of the finished product).

I received my replacement FF60LE yesterday. Here's the bearing clearance:

Upper bronze bearing 0.375
upper shaft 0.372
clearance 0.003

lower bronze bearing 0.500
lower shaft -unable to measure due to interference and the shaft didn't want to unscrew easily.

0.003 is not as good as the 0.0015 of my OC-20 but better than the 0.008 of my first FF60. Don't know if it will run quiet or not. I will get it installed next week and give it a whirl.

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Originally posted by fabricator:
Hey no argument from me, the spincleans are junk as far as I'm concerned, but I needed to be filtering oil and making fuel, not shipping fuges back and forth, this whole thing only proves beyond any doubt "You get what you pay for".
The spinner does not have alingment marks, but the quality is not even comparable, when you spin it there is NO wobble or runout, when it runs you have to listen to hear it over the electric motor, sooner or later I will end up with four spinner 960's.
I hope you end up with a good spinclean but I would not count on it.

I gather you do not have a pressure relief valve? That's a BIG NO NO!

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Originally posted by dyoungen:
The spinclean I am using is working fine. I left mine run while I went to mow the grass. When I got back the pressure must have gone over the max because the rubber "O" ring was hanging out from under the inner cap. I cleaned out everything but it wouldn't hold the ring in and wouldn't build up the pressure or spin. I called the factory and they sent me a replacement cap for $12.00. I can't complain about the service or the cost!! Guess I'll have to keep a closer eye on things!!

Yes I do have a pressure relief valve. What kind do you have? When I talked to the guy at the factory, (can't remember his name) he said the pressure can spike in a matter of seconds so I guess mine wasn't fast enough. I noticed the relief valve was was releasing a small amount of oil as I was working it this afternoon. The pressure was about 100+lbs. What is the top pressure these need to run? I still can't believe how much gunk the CF can remove! I've run about 100 gallons already with 40+ in process right now. I add about 40 gallons at a time to the truck so I'm going to run it one more time before putting it in the truck.

I have a piston pressure relief valve from Lowes.
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&pro...49-PPRV50&lpage=none

Which one do you have? A spring loaded pressure relief valve like the one above should react much faster than "a matter seconds" unless it is stuck closed.

The pressure relief valve is the kind used on a water heater. I figured that way heat and pressure was covered. I have it up and running and it sure is nice not to have to keep changing the filters. Do you have to keep a close watch on your CF or can you walk away and let it run? What is the pressure setting on the piston pressure relief valve?

canolafunola: I bought the relief valve you have listed in the previous post. I'll be installing it tomorrow. Have you found any valves with a little higher pressure relief? Like 80 or 90 psi? Do you get your CF running and let it run or do you still have to keep a close watch on it? It has listed 75psi on the top.

I bought the Lowe's pressure relief valve based on the info in this thread. It is stamped (set at 75 psi) on the top. It seems to open at about that pressure. I can't get it to stay closed above that pressure, which causes the spin clean to run at roughly 85 psi. It seems to have a white plastic liner. Did you crank down on that white plastic that is sandwiched between the brass threads? I gave it a couple of good cranks with a wrench, but I don't want to break it.

Hi Jon, unscrew the knurled end cap & inside you'll see a screw that pushes on a spring. Screw the screw in little bits at a time till you get to your desired pressure. HTH, Tigafila