I have just spent the last 2 hours reading every post in this thread and am left with a few questions. However thank you all for such great information!!

1. With an Inline Heater, how quickly can I heat the Oil to 160-170F which is going to a CF?

2. To filter 55 gallons of oil with a CF the size of the FF60, how long does this take? I mean, shouldn’t it be only an hour or so?

3. I am reading about people who cycle 55 Gallons with a CF for 6-8 hours! What is the cost of running a pump and heater for that time? I am paying .14 a KW hour in Los Angeles. Not only does that seem like a lot of wasted enrgry, it also just seems to take too long. I mean isn’t the FF60 rated at 60 gallons per hour?

4. If I invest in a gear drive pump and electric motor to drive the pump, can I use this same setup to run the GL1 processor after the I have finished filtering the oil or is the pressure just too high with this setup and better just use the Northern tool water pump? What kind of pressures does the northern tool pump produce anyway?

That does it for about now.

Thanks
Doug

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1. It depends on the watts of the heater and your VO and air temp. You don't need 160F to start the CF, I can often start mine right away and get 100F, then it takes 1-2 hours to hit 160F.

2. Depends how dirty/wet it is. 2-3 hours typical.

3. Its cheap, a few pennies a gallon.

4. Yes you could use it for your processor. The flow is what matters there and the northern will be slightly higher flow.

Ok, can anybody point me to a link to the FF60? diesel products has the spinclean and spinnerII but I dont see anything anywhere about anything called an FF60 or FF60 LE.

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Originally posted by fabricator:
Ok, can anybody point me to a link to the FF60? diesel products has the spinclean and spinnerII but I dont see anything anywhere about anything called an FF60 or FF60 LE.

you might give them a call:

Pricing:
Model FF25LE $185.00
Model FF60LE $215.00
Funds: US Dlrs
Delivery: Stock
Shipping: FF25LE $10.00 FF60LE $15.00

To order, please complete the attached electronic form and email or fax it to us or call 1-800-668-4835 to place your order.

For your convenience we accept Visa, Master Card, American Express and PayPal.

If you have any questions, please contact us.

Regards

David

Industrial Diesel Products Inc.
Toronto, ON. Canada.
Tel: 905-362-0423 Toll Free 1-800-668-4835
Fax: 905-362-5015 Toll Free 1-800-668-7450
http://www.dieselproducts.com

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Originally posted by Flyboyd8:

quote:

Originally posted by fabricator:
Ok, can anybody point me to a link to the FF60? diesel products has the spinclean and spinnerII but I dont see anything anywhere about anything called an FF60 or FF60 LE.

you might give them a call:

Pricing:
Model FF25LE $185.00
Model FF60LE $215.00
Funds: US Dlrs
Delivery: Stock
Shipping: FF25LE $10.00 FF60LE $15.00

To order, please complete the attached electronic form and email or fax it to us or call 1-800-668-4835 to place your order.

For your convenience we accept Visa, Master Card, American Express and PayPal.

If you have any questions, please contact us.

Regards

David

Industrial Diesel Products Inc.
Toronto, ON. Canada.
Tel: 905-362-0423 Toll Free 1-800-668-4835
Fax: 905-362-5015 Toll Free 1-800-668-7450
http://www.dieselproducts.com

Thanks for the info flyboyd, I guess I'll call but I dont even see the stuff you posted on their site anywhere, it would be nice to have some specs to look at, think I'll drop an email.

I use a Dieselcraft OC20 the smallest one at 1 Gal per minute.
A 1/3 HP gear pump, and 2400 watts of heat (2 4500 watt 220 volt elements in series )
All the lines and the tank are insulated
It takes about 1.5 hours to heat 45 gallons of WVO from 45 Deg F to 180 Deg F. I start the centrifuge when the oil is at or above 60 Deg F and then readjust the pressure when the oil is above 120 Deg F.
I run the centrifuge at 90PSI for 4 or more hours at 180 Deg F then clean the CF (it only takes 10 minutes) I run the CF for a couple more hours and check it again (just to be sure ) before pumping out the tank.& starting again.
I know this may sound like a long time however I dont have to watch it and it uses less than $1.00 in electricity to process 45 gallons of WVO into nice clean dewatered fuel.
This setup is so easy and inexpensive to run I process 200 to 300 gallons of WVO per week for several friends and still have excess capacity.

KickGas

Hello,

In regards to cleaning out the canister. What about lining it with paper? I know this is done on some of the CF's with the big rigs. Hummel makes the liners for their FM CF's.

Anybody tried this yet?

Veg

There was some mention of the idea previously in one of the CF related thread. I don't recall the specifics but my general recollection was that is was not a well received idea.

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Originally posted by vegtable:
Hello,

In regards to cleaning out the canister. What about lining it with paper? I know this is done on some of the CF's with the big rigs. Hummel makes the liners for their FM CF's.

Anybody tried this yet?

Veg

Ha!
First I take a paper with a little WVO and smear the CF with a very little thin layer of WVO. Then I spray a layer of "Mr Oisters Magigal liquer" on it.

After CF:ing I just rip it of!

That's it

Go Go Gooooo

Anybody have a picture of how they mount the centrifuge above the barrel? I'm just trying to get a few ideas how everybody mounts the CF. I just got my Spin-Clean in the mail yesterday.

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Originally posted by dyoungen:
Anybody have a picture of how they mount the centrifuge above the barrel? I'm just trying to get a few ideas how everybody mounts the CF. I just got my Spin-Clean in the mail yesterday.

I have several, they are on WIKI, and they are shown in the photo archive of an Alt fuel furnice group. Have you spent time looking threw the threads, you might check page 14 of this thread, you might look in the dieselcraft thread. Actualy it is hard not to find them in the threads.

Bosse - Thanks for the reply on your paper inserts. Glad to see someone is doing it in the veg realm of CF usage.

What the heck is the magical liqueur you reference??

Thanks

Hi.
I have also tried to use paper lining.
I cut a band of paper, insert it and adjust it so it is exact the circumference of the inside diameter of the rotor. I use a small piece of tape to keep the ends together. But it is important to do it exact, or else you will have more vibration, it comes out of balance.
It is easier to clean it that way.
But also, just to soak it in hot water with plenty of soap, makes the hardest goop to dissolve. Makes it easier to remove what is outside the paper-liner.

Sunwizard, I have a question for you:



If I remember correctly, one of the differences between the Diesel Craft CFs and the Spinner/SpinClean/FilterFuge units are that the DC has a nickel plating rather than galvanized zinc.



Do you remember reading a thread about year or two ago where someone was mentioning that their zinc/pot-metal Goldenrod tank style filter head was forming grey scum in reaction with WVO water based acids?



What I'm wondering is whether the galvanizaed zinc lining in the rotor of the SpinClean/spinner/FilterFuge CFs could ever be eaten away and somehow imballance the rotor?



I know that even if such a reaction were possible and might potentially imballance the CF rotor, it would likely take a very long time to occur, but I'd still rather prevent it rather than cure it.



If there's any significant chance of acids in WVO ever eating the zinc off of the rotor and thereby imballancing it, I think maybe a Diesel Craft might be worth the extra $$$

Or you could just dip the rotor in muriatic acid and lose the galvanizing, the galvanizing is only a few microns thick so I wouldnt think it would affect the balance much if at all.

Yes the galvanizing comes off. I agree it will probably not imbalance it since the layer is thin and uniform. The nickel plating is much nicer and worth it. It makes it easier to clean. I have both kinds of plating on my rotors.

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I have both kinds of plating on my rotors

Are the older style galvanised rotors still working okay?

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Originally posted by welder:
Are the older style galvanised rotors still working okay?

Yes.

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Yes.

Great! Approximately how long have they been in use?

Sorry to bug you with all these questions, I'm only trying to decide on a higher quality Diesel Craft CF VS. a cheaper, but acceptable quality FilterFuge CF.

After a lot of research, I went with the FF60LE, there are really very few differences, some cast parts versus stanped parts and slightly different plating systems, but $215 versus $650 was the big deciding factor, you could buy three FF's for what you pay for one OC50, but that is only my $0.02 take it for what it is worth.