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The best way to get answers is here as others may want to no . Blends work but some tanks may be dirty and blends could bring down all the deposites fast causeing stock filters and all to clog also . You could get away with this in warm climates but you still need to worry about oil fats that could be in the wvo .
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You may want to try changing your subject line to sayy "powerstroke" instead of "vehicle". You may get more responses, and more pertinent ones, too.
1985 Mercedes 300D, sold, Heat exchanger and injector line heaters, all single tank. 1997 E300D Benz using 50% diesel, 50% VO single tank |
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Thanks for the tip, Brian. Although "Powestroke" applies to my personal vehicle, I am interested in ANYfeedback on WVO blends being run in unmodified vehicles.
I feel that as soon as the WVO is cut with any type of thinner, a lot of the arguments for needing a conversion may go out the window. 1981 Mercedes 300 SD 1999 F-350 Both on WVO single tank blend. No fuel system mods on the Ford. Mercedes has a Goldenrod water block and injector line heaters. |
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I run a blend in 2 different 7.3l pre powerstroke fords.
One has the stock lift pump removed and a tiny electric pump mounted on the fenderwell a vegtherm between the small prefilter and the stock filter and about 20 feet of fuel line is wraped around the top heater hose before the fuel gets to the prefilter. The worst problems i have had is a few plugged filters.aprox 5k miles The other truck has the stock lift pump and a prefilter before the stock filter with no heat. this is the truck i use the most....worst problem a few plugged filters.aprox 8k miles. In both of these trucks i have dual tanks ...I always stop and start on pure diesel and the blends i run are from 90/10 to 70/30 (depending on the weather)mostly wvo/gasoline....but i generally add in a quart of naptha to a 40 gal batch. |
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firemediceric,
I've got an 85 mercedes 300td, 100% unmodified, running 80/20 wvo/rug for about 30,000 miles now with no problems. Acutally, once in the winter it felt like it was gonna die so i added a few gallons of reg diesel to lessen the gelling fear I had. I have heard that I would have to change filters like nuts, but so far, with a ton of miles driven, not one filter change. |
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Where are you located? How cold are typical winter temps? Usful info on a post like this. I know my response would be very different due to my location and winter temps. Dana दान danalinscott@yahoo.com http://vegoilconversions.netfirms.com/ VegOil Conversions by Dana Linscott- VO Conversion Consultation for large and small trucks, VO fuel related businesses, and co-generation(power/heat)projects, |
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Dana,
I think you were asking Zeemang his location, but for what it's worth I'll let you know where I'm at and see if you have any other information or tips to offer that may be of help. I drive my '99 F-350 in Central Florida. If you're interested, I have this same thread going on www.thedieselstop.com I've received some interesting feedback there. Zeemang, thank you for your input. 1981 Mercedes 300 SD 1999 F-350 Both on WVO single tank blend. No fuel system mods on the Ford. Mercedes has a Goldenrod water block and injector line heaters. |
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Dana, I've always enjoyed your posts.
Sorry for not mentioning that, I'm in central CT. My 300td came with a block heater installed that i had to use maybe a half dozen times this past winter when it was really cold. I just plugged it in, shoveled my own driveway, and by then the engine was warm enough to crank over and run. Idle was a little bumpy for the first few minutes, but soon settled in and ran fine after that. This blend works well for me and my car, but I would definatly hesitate to run it in a more modern car/truck for fear of having to do any expensive/extensive repairs, just a word of caution to those thinking of running an unheated blend. |
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I've been running my totally unmodified 1980 Mercedes 300TD on UCO for almost two years. Most of the time I blend with 10% RUG. I'm in central California. I experienced frequent clogging of the pre-filter, which I expected, sometimes every 200 miles or so. I just outlasted it; it has finally cleared up. The pre-filter costs less than $2.00 and can be changed in 5 minutes, so I considered it an acceptable trade-off.
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OK - this is a link to a more detailed list of my blend testing and minor modifications and problems running cold blends in a mostly unmodified 92 Dodge Cummins.
--------------------------------------------------------------------- 92 dodge cummins with over 260,000 miles. Running an unheated 50% diesel/50% WVO blend for about the last 75,000 miles when temps above 50 deg f, no modifications or heating except the addition of a throw-away in-line fuel filter (removed during cold weather). As of 8-01-05 I have been testing a 75% WVO/15% gasahol (90% RUG/10% ethanol)/10% diesel blend. Works fine down to about 65 f then starts rough. Runs ok once engine warms up. Back to a 50/50 diesel blend sence 9-15-05, just to cool now. -- 11-01-05 Modified stock fuel tank internal fuel pickup to have I.D. of 3/8 inch, this eliminated cold start slow idle and bogg on acceleration. Now adding 1 ounce each of acetone and pure gum spirits of turpentine to each 5 gallons of any blend, seems to help keep the fats in solution to a lower temperature --Heated 2nd tank in the works |
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Are any of you doing a compression value log to see if your ring lands are coking up and comreporssion dropping much quicker than can be accounted for by ring wear?
Dana दान danalinscott@yahoo.com http://vegoilconversions.netfirms.com/ VegOil Conversions by Dana Linscott- VO Conversion Consultation for large and small trucks, VO fuel related businesses, and co-generation(power/heat)projects, |
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dana:
i sofar blow tested my car twice and had the hed off once the beginning of this year and sofar so good. though for the record i would not just blend in a newer tdi. i will stay with old skool prechamber jettas. this is my 4th season on 80/20 wvo rug and when closer to freezing i go 70/30 and have driven it to work at 26 degF already. no heat at all. i took that pipe heater off also. i have oil that never had meat in it just frys and funnel cakes. |
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Hi firemediceric.
Since i do not log on often, it was nice to get the PM. David Norwood 2001 F350 7.3 DI purchased new by me and i believe it is the first DI Ford experimented with and talked about on this forum. The single OEM fuel tank only. Updated 1/2009 . HOH for fuel line heat from tank to 12v lift pump. GPI/CIM-TEK spin on filterhead and 10 micron filter. Two 12v 36" heaters wrapped around metal fuel lines. One before add on filter and one before OEM filter.dttk44@bellsouth.net Cool weather mixes starting spring 2009. 100% vo to 65*. 5% K1 to 55*. 10% K1 to 45*. 20% K1 to 35*. 30% K1 to 10*. |
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