welder -- Do you intend to use a band heater or a hose wrap on this big filter element?
Please post the time needed to liquify the oil under winter conditions once you have some data.

Sorry, this is picky, but, To clarify - An actual 3/4 inch pipe nipple has an outer diameter of almost an inch and has 14 threads/inch, 3/4 inch filters have a 3/4 inch opening with 16 threads/inch.

Filters with a one inch opening usually do have 14 threads/inch, and the filter threads are usually a bit loose, so I actually have been able to use a 3/4 inch tapered pipe nipple as a filter mounting nipple for these, as long as you don't have to screw the nipple in too far.

Hi Tim.

Ignoring nominal pipe designations for clarity, my dims are as follows:

1. Original Moroso remote oil filter mount nipple: ID: 1/2" OD: 3/4" Threads: 16 TPI (straight automotive threads)

2. Adapter: ID: 3/4" OD: 1" 12 TPI

3. Filter element output opening: 1" 12 TPI UNF-2B

I know you mentioned that most elements with 1" openings that you've seen are 14 TPI, I want hydraulic filters. They are usually 12 TPI.

What's happening with your custom veggie lift pump? It seems that thread has gone dormant. Are you going back there again?

welder - OOPPS - you are correct, one inch filters are 12 TPI rather than 14, my error..

Other projects just now (truck heated system, small babinbgton heater from furnace burner), I will start a new discussion about using Suntec pumps as lift pumps once I have all the pre-n-post modification flow data on both the 1725 and 3400 RPM pumps.

Hi Tim.

Mistakes happen, to err is human. Better to discover it here rather than to spin yourself a thread adapter to 14 TPI then cross thread a 12 TPI filter element onto it. That would be especially frustrating if you only discovered the error after letting the adapter permanently attach to the smaller dia nipple by using Permatex red thread locker/sealer to join the two together.

Fuel filters are available in both 1" - 14 and 1" - 12 with the 1" - 14 somewhat more common. Hydraulic filters, as you say, are usually 1" - 12. There are some 1" - 12 oil filters too.

I prefer fuel filters over hydraulic filters because you can usually get fuel filters that are less than 10 microns but hydraulic filters are usually 10 microns of worse.

Hi Ron.

Both www.parker.com and www.cim-tek.com have low micron hydraulic filters. One of the reasons I wanted hydraulic filters instead of fuel filters is that most fuel filters are nominally rated, while most hydraulic filters are rated absolutely. At least, that's what I noticed anyway. It may not be the case everywhere.

Microglass seems to be offered in absolute rated filter media, whereas cellulose media is usually nominal.

I can get hydraulic filters that clean down to 1/10 of a micron, but they cost big money.

Hi everyone, great forum, very informative for a new boy to wvo/svo. Being new to wvo conversions I'm wanting to buy a kit. In australia there is a company called www.vegiecars.com.au. They have single tank systems that use glow plug heated fuel filters/ glow plug fuel heaters and also injection pipe electric heaters. After seeing everyones inventions and ideas in this forum I would really appreciate some of the forums regulars if they could have a quick look at this site/products and give an amature veggie some much needed feedback, thanks Froggo.

HI Froggo.
I spoke to Marcus from veggie cars and he reckons there shouldnt be an issue with burning or poly problems but I suspect he has done no testing on this. Have you emailed him ? The single tank system has been developed by himself and at a first glance looks ok. I have recently purchased an Elabett system because of the complexities of my vehicle and the system he offers does not convince me that it will work well with my Merc 112CDI vito van.

Hi Welder,

What kind of price have you found 2 or 5 micron hydraulic filters? I can get 2 micron (nominal) fuel filters for about $8.

I think hydraulic filters are usually more expensive than fuel filters.

I havent searched too hard, so I just grabbed a 10 micron Donaldson for about $10 from www.princessauto.com

Thanks Rpman, I have spoken to Marcus also but like you are not completely convinced. I have a older landcruiser which is very robust but of simple design. My concerns are based around the idea that glowplugs are not designed for this purpose/ wvo being injected into a cold engine/hot wvo going into a cold ip. My plan would be to only use the glowplug heaters during the startups. When the engine comes up to temp a coolent flat plate heat exchanger would then take over providing the fuel heat as the glowplug heaters are thermostat controlled. Marcus does not have the fphe in his single tank system kit but I'm going to add this to take pressure of the glowplug heaters and the power draw required to run these heaters. The injector pipe heaters would cut in and out as required to maintain the correct temp at fuel injection. Marcus has a nissan patrol which he converted to a duel tank system. He added his injector pipe heater system later and started using both tanks for wvo. Marcus claims to have used this system for 12 months with no problems.
The benefits of the Australian climate help greatly but is it enough to stop hot fuel shock to the ip pump? Reading the horror stories about breaking pump shafts etc from this is a concern to me. The other main concern is injecting hot wvo into the cold combustion chamber at startup. Will there be ample burn to stop carbon build up on the bore walls/ piston tops and ring gaps? Will running a blend of say 10-20% dino deisel with the wvo ensure a clean burn?
Once again thanks Rpman for your comments and I would be intrested to hear more about your conversion and how its going since we are from the same climate/ state etc. Also I would still like some others from this forum to comment if they have the time and/or intrest. Like Rpman I am open to purchasing a single tank system from outside Australia, froggo.

The TurboFyner™ is an on-board-diesel-fuel-refiner system that filters fuel, separates water from fuel, and heats the fuel during cold weather operation. This unique system is designed for use in all light-duty diesel pickup and medium duty diesel engines with fuel flows up to 200 GPH operating on petroleum or biodiesel fuels

http://www.ramcoperformance.com/turbofyner.htm

add another one to the list

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Looks really nice, Omar! Good find. I wonder if anyones ever tried them with svo?

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Originally posted by welder:
Looks really nice, Omar! Good find. I wonder if anyones ever tried them with svo?

Yes its the VegMax sold by Plantdrive for $215

Beat me to it, SunWizard - thanks!

Craig

I should have recognized the overall look of the unit. Now that it's been pointed out, I can see with obvious clarity that they are the same.

hi welder,

i just installed the VegMax filter. it is a good for a canadian.

today in montreal after driving for 20 on the highway i took a reading with my IF laser gun right above the brass output port and it was around 190F.

now could this be because its behind the headlight or the IF reading was effected by the radiator fan (although it was not functioning at the time of the reading). but it gets hot. i will post pictures soon.

i primaraly purchased this filter because of the canadian source and duties/extra taxes was not a factor and the hydraforce fuel valves can be mounted on the filter - very nice.

please dont comment on the location of the filter - i know there are better locations but that was the best location compared to the time i had to install it.

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and the temperature outside was 45.5F

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http://vegrev.com/vegrev%20website%20projects.html
few more at this link

good luck
Omar
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Omar