Diesel to veggie, that’s the plan here at Oostburg High School, were Mr. Bauman’s Intro to Tech class of 18 kids are turning a 1981 Mercedes Benz 300TDT, that runs on Diesel fuel, into a veggie-oil ran vehicle. Were all excited but we still have some questions and concerns, so if anyone can help we will be continuing to post and check up daily, so please check back with use, it would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

this is a wonderful project for a high school. attached is some documentation that might help you get started.

http://www.pasotx.com/pat/benz_web_page.pdf

i will be glad to help. where are you located?
contact me direct at kcpilotpat@yahoo.com or pm

pat

It appears this school is in Wisconsin

http://www.oostburg.k12.wi.us/ohs/index.htm

I converted my father's 300sd 2 years ago. You may find the info useful:

Thread:
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=447609751...59605551&m=183109705

Gallery:
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=447609751...59605551&m=215109725

My personal opinion is that HiH can be risky, and more so if it's routed outside. With the availability of good, inexpensive heat exchangers nowadays, HoH is sufficient, easier and doesn't have the risk of contaminating fuel with coolant.

Thanks for the links, We'll check them out and we'll keep checking back. Thanks

Hi Pat,
I was looking at your pics... very nice install... but I do have a suggestion... I noticed that you didn't use silicone on the exposed portions of the insulation... If you don't apply some RTV / silicone over time the vibrations from the engine will fray the insulation and your heater may short out...

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/6421006031
here is a link you should read thru again...
I sent you a lot of links did you get them?
Anyway post some photo's lets see what you folks are doing... you should start a web site of your project and post a video on utube or www.grouper.com

anyway keep going you will get it done!
Omar
www.omarsales.com

a link to all the parts you need to build a veggie car

Lets put together a list of all the cheapest prices for parts...

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/681106491

manuals and links


http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/8871033131/p/1

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/6491059271

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/6961016131

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/681106491

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/6071025271

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/7661093171

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/7521042961

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/4151002271

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/4971055931

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/1631052071



http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/2401079071



http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/6421006031



http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/3231046961

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/8341003661

good luck
Omar

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quote:

Originally posted by Fattywagonman:
Hi Pat,
I was looking at your pics... very nice install... but I do have a suggestion... I noticed that you didn't use silicone on the exposed portions of the insulation... If you don't apply some RTV / silicone over time the vibrations from the engine will fray the insulation and your heater may short out...

thanks, john for your positive comments. i value your opinion. i have since smeared high temp rtv on the exposed portions of the injecor line heaters. if i could figure out how to change the photos on the web page i would.

pat

Ya we got all of your links, They are very helpfull, Thanks. We will be posting videos of our car as soon as we get our editing system, who knows when thats going to get here, but I will for sure post the links of the videos as soon as I can. Thanks again

-OHS-

Has anyone converted a car near the year and make as the car we're converting its a 1981 Mercedes Benz 300TDT. If so do you have pics or a video on utube or something we can look at, it might come in handy.

Hey! We are part of the Oostburg High School veggie car program. We just finished re-plumbing the fuel lines and we are about to start the coolant lines but we aren't exactly sure what type of material to use for the fittings. So if any of you would like to help us out that would be great!!

Should get the schools audio visual classes or computer classes to document the veggie project that way more people from different areas of school get involved and its more supportable by school admin, if they ever say anything.

Since this is an adventure in education I encourage ya'll to jump in and go. Make Plans, ask us for advice about your plans and suggestions about hands one stuff not found in books. etc. Please do not ask us to spoon feed you. You will learn to little that way.

Members here.. DONT FEED THE BEARS LOL. guide these guys but dont do the work for them. Omar..... understand? teach them to surf (search) and they can feed their minds for a life time.

Now all that being said. Couple hints for you.

PRE TEST / PRE TEST / PRE TEST!!! KNOW THE CAR, temps it runs at, What the compression readings are, what the injectors look like, how good the cooling system opperates, record it all!!! for comparision to post test.

1. The car you are converting is one of the best there is to convert.

2. Cause of this there is LOTS of information about converting a vehicle with this engine in it. Learn the engine model number!

3. Bunch of this is actually on this board already. Seek and you will find. The first place to start is the top three threads of this board. My applogies about the mangled DIY/FAQ thread but it will still lead you to good places.

4. Be aware of the air bleed atop the OEM fuel filter. Not the inline one. There is much discussion in here on what to do about the air delema's you can get into if you don't deal with that banjo bolt properly. There is more than one solution. Read up on it. Present a plan to us and we will advise you if you need so.

5. Become one with the search feature! Remember often your search finds not the answers but the term(s) to use in your next search

6. The car conversion is only 1/3rd of the game. Your collection, filter and dewater system is the other 2/3rds with the dewater being the biggest.

7. Best source IMHO to do searches and ask questions about your car is: http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/forumdisplay.php?f=15

ATTACK CHARGE GO FORTH. Your on a grand adventure.

PS. yes, I'm a trained educator.

PS. there is another whole years worth of teaching available on this rig after your done. Do a search in here on using glow plugs as sensors to evaluate quality of engine combustion. Could EASILY be something to do in conjunction with the science classes and math classes!

http://www.frybrid.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3127&page=3

take a look at bg cast install he has lots of photo's

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/6421006031
read thru this link
look at this video on how to filter and dewater your oil

http://kungpaojetta.blogspot.com/2006/08/wvo-filtering-station-complete.html

you should look at these video clips if you have time
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/15960555...071025271#6071025271

if you have any question just ask
post a photo of your set up
Omar
www.omarsales.com

AIR in the system ... get a site glass and temp gauge before the Injection Pump



use a sight glass that has meatal hose fittings... do not us the plastic screw in type they will crack (I ran one for about 5k before the plastic ends cracked in half)
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?Ntt=fuel+filt...target=egnsearch.asp
You can buy the sight glass here or Autozone has them for about $10.
do not over tighten the glass itself it can crack .. (I have done that too) however make sure it is not leaking air some times they vibrate loose just enought for a small leak so check for drips ... good luck Omar
www.omarsales.com
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http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?Ntt=fuel+filt...target=egnsearch.asp

SPE-2228

part number
SPE-2228 Spectre Pro-Plumbing Fuel Filters
3/ 8 in. Hose Barb Inlet/ Outlet, Each
Today $9.95

LOL. Omar do you do your kids homework too?

relax .... they will have their hands full even with the links I gave them ... I just hope they get it to run and get the air out of the system ... O

Thanks you guess, and thanks omar and Jeepin, the links really do help and we have gown through most of them but they are helping, and al the video and pics are great to since most of use are better learning visualy then off reading something, lol. But thanks a lot, and we will be posting pics and videos, I just cant do anything until we get our editing system in, but the other fourm poster set up a myspace of our project so feal free to check that out http://www.myspace.com/vegiecar

Greetings, this is peter from Oostburg and I am running the HIH for the veggie fuel lines. My plan at the time is to follow the diesel fuel lines running out of the engine and following them to the rear axle and going under the A frame and running the HIH over to the center of the car where the tank will be located I was wondering if I should run the hose a different way then I am planning?