Anyone need a logo I went and put one together you can find it here:HERE

That's way sweet!!!

Glad you like it feel free to use it as much as you want I honestly feel this is something bio producers should endorse to bring more public attention to the GO Green movement.

that rocks. "needasticker" makes good quality stickers (you can get a nicer "powered by veg oil" from them)- maybe they would be interested in producing this sticker-

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Originally posted by Pir8Darryl:
Since we are required to "refine" our waste VO via a filtering and de-watering process to produce fuel, we are infact "producing" a product.

Sure you're producing a "product," but you aren't producing the "natural oil." You're producing natural oils based fuels.

Now, were you growing and pressing your own, you would have more leeway to claim production of the oil itself, though I would have to say that the oilseed plant still gets full credit for the production.

Semantics is a wonderful, wonderful field that is so frequently ignored for the convenience of the few.

Hi friedfuel,
That doesn't sound like a half bad idea, bumper stickers, I'll have to check them out.

TurbinePowered, while I have to agree with you,NOBFEC just doesn't have the same "grind thier noses in it" sound as NOPEC

~Harvey~

Lazerus, check with biodiesel-decals (needasticker), the price for making decals.
We are a few in Sweden who want decals, but we have so far looked at the ones they already have.

About font,, why not make it in the same font as needasticker, so it will be more uniform and easier to identify?

semms like not many are interested in this discussion, I have expected more replies....

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Originally posted by Lazerus:
TurbinePowered, while I have to agree with you,NOBFEC just doesn't have the same "grind thier noses in it" sound as NOPEC

Not to mention "NOBFEC" sounds like some hideous disease, right?

I agree, which is why I'd put forth substituting "Promoting" for "Producing" initially. Same acronym, better semantic fit.

Either way Turbine, I still like the idea. I've been thinking about this since we started talking about this a few days ago, and I want to ask everyone, what can we do with NOPEC other than bumper stickers. Anyway we can turn this into something BIGGER? I'd personally like to see it become something we could use to educate the public, a public face for biodiesel brewers across America. Let's put up some ideas. I'm open to suggestions. I would especially like to hear from steiner and hheynow about this since it was steiner's original post that started this whole thing and hheynow that first mentioned NOPEC all I did was run with the logo.

And lets get some votes on "producing" and "promoting" here for this it really needs to be settled.

I like promoting, lets promote, I was thinking something like a 10"X30" vinal across the back window of the benz happy veggin'

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Originally posted by veggedout:
I like promoting, lets promote, I was thinking something like a 10"X30" vinal across the back window of the benz happy veggin'

But then we fall back to this thread about the merits and wisdom in putting WVO stickers or decals on ones vehicle. Seems that the trend is to have none.

Well hheynow,
that's true enough, but what I had in mind was more along the lines of what liveoily was saying in that string, we need to educate the public about bio. What I was thinking was like an organization that could set up booths at fairs to show the "smart" people out there what we're doing, and maybe get some more of them to come on board and help to ,uh, excuse the pun, refine the process.

~Harvey~

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Originally posted by Lazerus:
but what I had in mind was more along the lines of what liveoily was saying in that string, we need to educate the public about bio.

So tell them about this forum and make sure they know how to use the search function.

What about Natural Oil PROCESSING environmental Community. Since we do wind up processing it into a fuel by dewatering and filtering.

weelliot,
I think that's a good suggestion, I could live with that one.hheynow, don't be like some of the people in the string you that you pointed out. If we become phobic about telling poeple about Bioprocessing, we risk being labeled as a bunch of nuts by the big oil companies. Really think about it do we want to make an impact or do we want to just be pecking around the edges of what they leave us while they go ahead and distroy the world that our children will inherit from us? I for one do not want to be pushed to the fringes.

In my humble opinion the naturally and environmental things are way over done, if it were me I ditch that stuff, most people see that kind of thing and see whacked out tree huggers saving snail darters, I am mostly in this game for cheap fuel, it is a good thing that I am sticking it to the man in my small way but that is just a byproduct, my $.02 says ditch the tree hugger stuff, you will be taken much more seriously by a wider range of people.

Okay fabricator,
That's why I'm asking for everyone's opinion. I don't mind the cheap fuel aspect of the whole thing either, besides most of the tree huggers are nuts anyway. But I still think we need more people involved in bio porcessing. Just look how far its come over the years. From kitchen bio to appleseeds to the GL Envioro process, the more people doing this the better the info gets for the rest of us.


~Harvey~

I myself am in this, as many are, for "all of the above." It's cheap, "less bad" for the environment (ie, hydrocarbon combustion could never be "good for the environment), and well it's fun to tinker. I think the NOPEC idea isn't tree hugger at all- in fact I get more of a "screw the man" vibe from it more than anything.

I completely agree, that's why I made the comments about keeping some distance from the environmental thing.

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Originally posted by friedfuel:
I myself am in this, as many are, for "all of the above." It's cheap, "less bad" for the environment (ie, hydrocarbon combustion could never be "good for the environment), and well it's fun to tinker. I think the NOPEC idea isn't tree hugger at all- in fact I get more of a "screw the man" vibe from it more than anything.

I like nopec also but the natural oil producing environmental community is to much IMHO.