It would be so cool if someone could start a new thread to summarize what has been collectively learned in this massive, massive thread. Like what is the total price of a basic centrifuge setup? What parts are required, etc?

Maybe we can convince the moderator to split out from this thread other peoples discussions about their dieselcraft setups. Discussions on each person's own set ups should have gone into their own seperate threads.

This one should have remained all about SUN's set up. That is the title of it. ...MY (sunwizard's) Dewater Rig. NOT Post everyones dieselcraft setup here

Live and learn.. we all know better for next time.

If Shaun wants to make me a moderator for a short while long enough to break this thread apart into better chunks I would be happy to do so. Do it all the time on other boards I moderate.

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Originally posted by mikemart:
It would be so cool if someone could start a new thread to summarize what has been collectively learned in this massive, massive thread. Like what is the total price of a basic centrifuge setup? What parts are required, etc?

I made a summary of most of this thread on the top of page 1. It includes a parts list with prices.

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Originally posted by SunWizard:

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Originally posted by mikemart:
It would be so cool if someone could ...summarize what has been collectively learned in this massive, massive thread....

I made a summary of most of this thread on the top of page 1. ...

Thank You Sunwizard for both recognizing this needed to be done AND for going out of your way to do the summary!!

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Originally posted by jeepin, moggin Jessup (coachgeo):
Maybe we can convince the moderator to split out from this thread other peoples discussions about their dieselcraft setups. Discussions on each person's own set ups should have gone into their own seperate threads.

This one should have remained all about SUN's set up. That is the title of it. ...MY (sunwizard's) Dewater Rig. NOT Post everyones dieselcraft setup here

I suppose I'm one of the guilty, but I have no regrets. I've dang near made this thread home base and don't see much value jumping to several threads for information found in this thread, that has the same like folks gather.

Nor do I see Sun jumping to different threads to answer questions people have for Sun or anyone else (including Mr. DieselCraft) about how they have their setup. Seabirdmusic for a good example, there is no better place to get their answer than to come here and have Sun's response on their setup.

While I've heard all the complaints about the size of this thread, Sun has done his part to summarize, and there is no single thread that has such comprehensive information on WVO since the use of the DieselCraft covers heating, filtering and dewatering issues. And there is little to gain by splitting it up and having to read multiple threads.

Anymore, if someone doesn't want to spend the time to read maybe they are asking something for nothing and they really don't have time or interest in the process.

Sun is a pioneer, I don't think by using the word "My" he intended to exclude setups that would follow his, but at the time his setup was one of a kind. But SunWizard can answer that.

This thread has become, (dang I hate to use this term), but it's a "living" document and as more information is available it gets tacked onto the previous knowledge.

The funny thing is, I just came to post a full size picture of my setup since I had two requests for that, but I don't think they were expecting me to start a thread just for my pictures...

Is the consensus of Sun and the other regulars on this thread that we split up to different threads? Obviously, I have little inclination to do so, but if I'm alone I won't post about my setup.

Sam

I think posting about dieselcraft rigs by anyone here is fine. But moving and avoiding posts about all the other off topic stuff that gets on here (like mistwashing) would be useful and could cut this thread in half. I try to keep the posts brief, and tell people when they get off topic to start a new thread.

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Originally posted by SunWizard:
I think posting about dieselcraft rigs by anyone here is fine...

I'll be brief, I look at in a different way cause of my back ground in learning studies, thinking processes etc.

Research shows all this will all be more comprehendable, easier to read, and keep the reader actively more engaged if it is broke up into smaller "organized" chunks. Splitting out each different persons setups into their own threads is just one way to organize it into smaller chunks.

As to dividing the thread.

As a modest participant, and certainly an appreciative one, I like the fact that all of the information is in one place. I follow the current thoughts easier in this format.

So my small voice asks, "I like the status quo. Please, could you leave things the way that they are?"

Split or not to split.

Points have been made in both camps- Peolple will do as they wish. If you Look at it thru the eyes of a new reader to the topic; you'll see why its best to start new threads when the topic splinters off a bit. If you look at it as making it easy for yourself... then you'll keep it in here.

Otherwise, Not much more needs to be said so lets drop this string of thought in the spirit of not convoluting this thread any more than we have already.

Hey Sam,

What model Dayton gear pump are you using to drive your OC-50? I think it says 6NY-something-something. The print is a bit difficult to read. Also, with that particular gear pump, how much of the oil are you bypassing - none, just a little, the perfect amount, or too much?

Well how many times is someone going to ask to chop the thred up before it is actually done? It will be done maybe not at page 79 but maybe at 100. When is our cutoff? I am tired of discussing when it will be cut down, lets just cut it down and not talk about it anymore.

Hi John,

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Originally posted by John Mason:
What model Dayton gear pump are you using to drive your OC-50?

It is the 6NY86, pumps 2.8 gpm at 100 psi, so I'd figure just under a gallon per minute bypass...maybe it could be linked to a OC-20 running at the same time!

Here are the pictures of the front:

One more.
Note the c-clamp is to be sure the controller doesn't vibrate off.

Sam,

Thanks for the gear pump information. That's a nice setup, and a sweet barrel too! It looks very well made (sturdy), and yet you can still see through it to tell how clean the oil is becoming.

John

some of you may have seen the pictures of seabirdmusic.com and my centrifuge setup. we have a 2gpm spinner II being run by a 1/4HP motor at 1700RPM and a mitsubishi power steering pump. For some reason we're only hitting about 40PSI max and we also have a few leaks. Could we have used the wrong pluming compound and is our motor too small or too low RPM's? Thanks for any input, see a short clip of our rig running here

Nice setup there, looks like 100+ gallons..

I see your temp control there , how much was it and where did you get it.. I need a controller thats cheap and will hold my setup at 190 degrees..

Any Ideas?

Ebacherville

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Originally posted by decibalclearity:
some of you may have seen the pictures of seabirdmusic.com and my centrifuge setup. we have a 2gpm spinner II being run by a 1/4HP motor at 1700RPM and a mitsubishi power steering pump. For some reason we're only hitting about 40PSI max and we also have a few leaks. Could we have used the wrong pluming compound and is our motor too small or too low RPM's?

Yes that motor is too small for a 2gpm CF. 1/4hp is the smallest allowed for a 1gpm CF as described in this thread. For 2gpm you need at least 1/2hp, and the right size pulleys.

I had a 2gpm centrifuge. In order to get 90 psi I rigged 2 power steering pumps in parallel and it worked great.

spy, will I need two power steering pumps to make this 2gpm spinner work, or should we just use a 1hp motor? the pump we're using now is from a mitsubishi SUV. And Sun, did our pulleys look like the wrong sizes? How would we find out what size they should be.

As I said, 1/2hp minimum. Try that first, if you get the right size pulleys its much easier than 2 pumps. Pulley size by trial and error. Test it by measuring the open flow is the easiest, and it should be about 3gpm. Pump into a gallon jug, or a 5 gallon bucket and time it.

Trial and error is the method I used and describe back on page 1 of this thread, and your CF is 2x the flow. So with a big enough motor 1/2hp, your motor pulley may be about 2x the size of my 1.5" one, so 3" to 4". That will vary depending on different PS pumps capacity and the pulley size it has.