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hi ya, maybe you guys should let the dirty oil rest a while to allow the dirt to fall down by gravity and then only use and heat the cleaner oil with the dieselcraft. I'm pretty sure you'll get no fat after you store it.
 
Registered: 15 November 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I have my barrell tilted and my pickup in the low spot and my output on the opposite side, but I am getting sediment on the other areas of the bottom. Do you stir or somehow displace this sediment so it gets pulled into the CF?


I sometimes get sediment too if I am running very dirty VO. After I run the CF I drain the barrel using the same pump as the CF. I catch and save the last 1/2 gallon that comes out so any sediment is then run with the next batch. Then I wipe the barrel bottom with a rag.


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Location: N. Colorado | Registered: 31 August 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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My waterheater set-up is probably not ideal. It has been problematic every step of the way and I am not sure I want to run a pump and a heater for four hours off my house current.

And I spent over $400. Of that I spent $380 for the dieselcraft and a spare bowl (still in the box) Plus I got some Pushlock fittings and a ball valve because the original was not working with my pump.

Originally I was thinking that I have two good pumps one of them has to work and I have the waterheater that is not getting used. And it sounds like a great way to filter and probably has less potential to spill oil.
I have spilled so much oil. Cleaning the bowl usually spills oil and I blew oil out of the vent at the top, spilled oil trying to fill the tank.......
It made my old system seem really simple and effective. I really wanted a simple centrifuge but I am not sure they will ever have a turn key model ready.

Now I am broke and could use the money. If I can not sell it I think I will try it again without the waterheater I will just use a 55 gallon drum or take back one of the 200 gallon collection containers that is not being use buy one of my restaurants.


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Yeah spilling oil is real hassle. gravity filtering at room temp is slow but cheap you get a very refine oil with no sediment. don't store oil in metal barrel. you can use your pumps too.
 
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has anyone tried a 12v gear pump for an onboard cf setup? they're out there.


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Can you share any pictures or describe how you utilized the water heater element?


I confess that frequently it is beyond my capacity to follow the jumbled mix of thoughts in this and other threads. The best I can hope for is to not get beat up to badly for asking questions for which smarter folks have already been able to extract an answer.
 
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I can't tell who you are asking, but my pics and description of using water heater elements is on the summary on page 1.


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... don't store oil in metal barrel. you can use your pumps too.
They sell plastic liners for metal barrels that are rather inexpensive. Much much thicker stuff than plastic bags. Thickness is maybe about the same as the cheapest of the tupperware you can get.


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I just got my CF working. I've used it maybe 3 times and it worked great. Now I can't get it to work at all.

I close the bypass and the pressure goes to around 15psi and the CF slowly spins but the pressure will not rise any higher. There are not any leaks. The oil is going out the bottom of the CF like usual but it's not spinning. I took off the cover and see a tight jet of oil coming out of the jets but that's it. It won't get up to speed. I have the spinclean but figured I post here since more discussion is on this page.
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It sounds like a pump problem. What is your pump? Have you tried measuring the flow it puts out? (put a gallon jug under the output and time until it fills.) If its a vane type pump like a power steering pump, many have reported they clog up after sitting and quit working.


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It sounds like a pump problem. What is your pump? Have you tried measuring the flow it puts out? (put a gallon jug under the output and time until it fills.) If its a vane type pump like a power steering pump, many have reported they clog up after sitting and quit working.


Thanks for the replies... I have a gear pump by Oberdorfer, similar to yours. I also thought it could be the pump at first. But the problem is in the CF because it's not restricting flow enough to build speed. Not sure why.

I can audibly hear when the pump motor has a load, and it's not getting loaded down at all right now. For some reason the CF just isn't able to build pressure. Both seals look fine (O-ring on bowl and cover seal). The seals and the bowl are new (I overpressured the last one). The bowl is new so I shouldn't have to clean it, but is there anywhere else to clean? I'm a little bummed because I spent around $600 or so to get here and now I can't figure this out. Looking for any ideas. Hopefully it's something easy I'm overlooking.
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Measure the flow. Thats the only way to tell if its the pump or the CF. Too low of flow gives you low pressure. At 0-15psi pressure you should have 1.5gpm if thats a 1gpm/90psi model like the dieselcraft OC-20. Maybe your new rotor has bigger jets and needs even more flow, can you compare them? Maybe you could swap the old jets into the new rotor, I know I can on the dieselcraft.

What happens when you overpressure the spinclean? On the DC brand it bends the top and all you need to do is add a 10 cent washer and o-ring and it works better than new.


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Measure the flow. Thats the only way to tell if its the pump or the CF. Too low of flow gives you low pressure. At 0-15psi pressure you should have 1.5gpm if thats a 1gpm/90psi model like the dieselcraft OC-20. Maybe your new rotor has bigger jets and needs even more flow, can you compare them? Maybe you could swap the old jets into the new rotor, I know I can on the dieselcraft.

What happens when you overpressure the spinclean? On the DC brand it bends the top and all you need to do is add a 10 cent washer and o-ring and it works better than new.


I'm not completely sure of all the damage. I know the bowl got expanded. I bought a new bowl and that seals well again. I don't know if something else is bent or not. I didn't get a new rotor so I think all should be the same there. I'll check the GPM tomorrow and report back. Also, I'll get some detailed photos of the parts on the spin clean.


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I don't know how your Spin Clean is built but from reading old posts it sounds to be the same as a Diesel Craft. If it were a DC and what you describe is happening it would have to be the pump.
 
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Here are the photos of the Spin Clean. I tried to capture as much detail as possible. Even if it doesn't help me figure out my problem, I'm sure it'll be somewhat helpful for people to be able to compare the products (Dieselcraft and SpinClean).


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Another of the spin clean...


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another of the Spinclean


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last one.


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